主题：【原创】温家宝讲述的天下大势 -- 同人于野

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:13 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Vickky Angstrom from Calgary, Canada writes: L. Tang - I really appreciate your translation of the headline. I wonder: do you think this means that Chinese leaders think that they already have a democracy?

I am also curious how long you think it will take for a multi-party system to come to China. I hope China uses a different electoral system than ours when the time comes.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:14 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Alfred Dreyfus from Canada writes: For centuries the Chinese have thought and planned long-term. A hundred years is nothing to those who don't have to worry about an election every four or five.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:15 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Stubborn Ox from Calgary, Canada writes: Watson Jones The fact that you just posted a text book definition of how the US system should work and why it's democratic was the first reason I suspected your post.. Then I realized you were actually from the US, of all the things Americans get divided over (guns, healthcare, education) them believing that their system is a democracy (if not the most superior) is by far the main thing they can agree on.. While you may disagree with the Canadian system, you need to do a bit of actual research on your political system.. The out of control lobbying and spending, the fact that judges don't rule based on what is right but what is popular, and subjecting minority rights decisions to referenda (which are nortoriously unreliable).. You call a referendum democratic, but when you give a complex problem to people who are not prepared/informed correctly to make a decision it is democracy in name only.. It's well known that people will often vote on a referenda as a way of supporting or punishing a government.. Partisan politics skews numbers even further.. combine this with the fact that you can't put a minority rights issue (gay marriage for example) up to a referenda, it's a MINORITY issue, of course they aren't going to win referenda, they're the minority.. that's what government is there for, to make the hard decisions, after weighing all the facts and understanding the consequences.. That's why we choose capable leaders to run the country in our best interest.. Don't get me wrong, I believe democracy is the best system available to us.. just don't kid yourself that the US is that great, or even that democratic (the last 2 presidential elections brought that into serious question, don't believe me let's have a recount.. oh wait you can't, because a Republican party suppoter makes the voting machines but won't allow anyone to verify the code and there's no paper ballots).. please do some research on referenda man.. ones not financed by the US government ideally.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:17 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

John Melnick from High River AB, Canada writes: Remember folks that this is the country that our attaining our Kyoto targets is supposed to set an example for. We lead and they shall follow.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:19 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

thomas ip from Shenzhen, Canada writes: dman T: I may be a clueless idiot but I am not naive.

Do you know how many 'intellectuals.....liberals' were killed in Ohio when they tried to protest against the Vietnam war?

So you think the students got a better deal in the US?

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:23 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

The Loyal Canadian Work Farce from Canada writes: In 25 years the gap between the rich and poor in China will be like the distance between Mars and Pluto. Just ask the leaders of North America's liberal econom....er...liberal democracy.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:24 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Vern McPherson from Toronto, Canada writes: Watson Jones from United States writes

And what was it you had rammed down your throat recently Whatty ?

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:25 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Stubborn Ox from Calgary, Canada writes: thomas ip

Let's not forget that nifty little thing called the Cultural Revolution.. where you know 50 Million people were murdered.. for being liberals, and artists and you know being generally educated and realizing a faux communist fascist regime was not in the best interest of the people..

Oh and was it you that brought up the slave trade? I'm not sure but let's not forget who owned the slaves in Africa before they were sold to the Euro's.. The other tribes in Africa.. they have been warring and making slaves of one another for alot longer than we ever did..

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:29 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Jack Smith from vanvouver, Canada writes: There are handful of so-called political criminals in china, Some are of them maybe wrongly charged like those people who are wrongly held because of national security reason in canada, but most of them commited actual crime.

Open your own eyes before you talked about millions as number.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:34 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Jack Smith from vanvouver, Canada writes: Stubborn Ox

You posted so many numbers withour proof at all. Where did you get those wierd numbers? Even most anti-china or anti-china government person cannot imagine about that kind of number.

Posted 27/02/07 at 10:35 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Stubborn Ox from Calgary, Canada writes: 'but most of them commited actual crime.'

of course they did.. they spoke out about the government.. got together in too big of a group.. worshipped a god other than the party leader etc..

those are all crimes in China.. so technically you are correct...