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我从小在一回教国家长大，也没觉得回教徒有什么极端的。至少从来没有回教徒要向我传教。
华人的传统，比如拜天公，七月歌台祭祖，这些在回教来说是多神教徒的习俗，也没有被压制。
再说你的断章取义，引一段的也就罢了，8：39你只引了半段。。。
你引的4：74，要和4：72，4：73结合看：
72 Lo! among you there is he who loitereth; and if disaster overtook you, he would say: Allah hath been gracious unto me since I was not present with them.
73 And if a bounty from Allah befell you, he would surely cry, as if there had been no love between you and him: Oh, would that I had been with them, then should I have achieved a great success!
74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
这段的中心论调是，信徒当中有些懦弱的人，如果你失利，他们就幸灾乐祸，如果你获利，他们就妒忌，所以74说的是无论成败，只要你是为了真主而战，都会得到回报。并不是叫信徒好战，而是要信徒勇敢。
9：123
123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).
124 And whenever a surah is revealed there are some of them who say: Which one of you hath thus increased in faith ? As for those who believe, it hath increased them in faith and they rejoice (therefor).
上下文对照看，应该是说信徒信仰的坚定程度。123说的应该是不要被非信徒影响，而要和他们争辩，显示你的坚定。9：123的翻译很有趣，有兴趣的人不妨再对照两个版本：
8：39
39 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do.
40 And if they turn away, then know that Allah is your Befriender - a Transcendent Patron, a Transcendent Helper!
上下文对照，很明显39所说的战斗是防御性质的。
9：5
4 Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
6 And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.
7 How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship ? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty.
这个比较兀突，4，6，7说的基本上都是人不犯我，我不犯人，5显得很兀突。但是如果楼下所说是放在一场战争中，就比较解释得通，基本上是一个rules of engagement。
（注：中译有些地方不是很通，所以没有引用，有兴趣者可以自己参照一下）
我本身对Abrahamic的宗教都没有好感。他们的经书里颇有些洗脑的教文在里面。但是曲读人家的经文，甚或断章取义，是不对的。只能助长极端主义分子。
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🙂问题是，每个回民都这样啊 酒仙桥 字26 2015-11-25 17:28:21
🙂好老的贴都被顶到前面来了 王敏 字569 2016-02-11 03:54:25
🙂在小孩子的时候哪管什么宗教种族的问题啊 1 flyfeather 字65 2008-01-02 09:12:05
🙂你断章取义得太厉害了吧？
🙂赞一下颜子 flyfeather 字76 2008-01-02 08:04:48
🙂您的经历很说明问题 1 江城孤舟 字142 2008-01-02 00:12:39
🙂这里确实是我经文不熟，多谢指点，花上 1 恭喜发财 字306 2008-01-01 23:11:17
🙂请参考一下我的一篇旧文 flyfeather 字235 2008-01-02 08:14:33