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家园 教你一步步反藏独 - 新添西藏人口、教育等内容4/07

摆事实,回击藏毒,教育不明真相者:

1、不总是有人说西藏是中国1949年“才”占领的吗,那就来点史料:1653年清朝皇帝确立了对西藏宗教领袖达赖和班禅的册封制度及其继承人灵童“转世”的金瓶。(In 1653, Qing Emperor offically gave the title Dalai to the head of Gelug Schools of Buddhism in Tibet. Since then any reincarnation aka successor of Dalai has to be approved and confirmed by Chinese central government.)

现在的达赖也是中国政府认定(officiated)的,是1940年由当时执政的民国政府认定。

重要的西藏从属中国的历史证据

•1751年清朝的《西藏善後章程》

•1793年的《欽定藏內善後章程》

详情看这:《陰謀與虔誠﹕西藏騷亂的來龍去脈》

http://www.tangben.com/Himalaya/hm54qing.htm

美国二战宣传片 Why We Fight: "Battle of China (ca. 1944) 1/5,其中的地图明确指出西藏是中国的一部分:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tOtVQ7cNWY

2、藏独不是说达赖被TG逼走的吗,达赖可一直在TG政府里任有公职:1953年达赖被推选为中华人民共和国佛教协会荣誉会长,1954年为达赖喇嘛当选为第一届全国人民代表大会常务委员会副委员长(In 1954 current Dalai Lama became Deputy Chairman of the Standing Committe of the National People's Congress aka the parliment of PRC),

直到59年出逃前都在中国政府管辖下的西藏自治区任职。

SO, if Tibet had been an independent country then, how came a "foreigner" like Dalai could hold such an important position in the parliment of PRC?

3、要求恢复西藏从前在达赖众僧人政教合一统治(theocracy)下农奴时代的“美好时光”?请看"Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth" by Michael Parenti(记着,一定要给出文章的题目和作者的名字,因为youtube等网站不让发带网址链接的贴子。)

原文:

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

河友厚积薄发提供中文翻译:

http://www.cchere.net/thread/1212242/1

youtube上的录像“Michael Parenti - Tibet: Friendly Fuedalism?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWGGjpJJCKE

没有比较就没有进步,顺便请愤愤们看看TG统治下新西藏,题目就叫Tibet Diary - Episode 1~6 on youtube。

其它有关西藏的youbube video还有:

"Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo

“Inferno under Dalai Lama & aristoric rule”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2bvs3uZ4c&feature=related

建议:大家可以把这些好的video加到自己的favorite里、Rate打5星、youtube里可以直接post a video response。

在其它网站留言,为了防止网站删除带链接的帖,大家要给出video、文章的标题,方便别人搜索。

4、藏独说什末他们有独特的文化、语言并有自个的Flag啥的,所以要求独立,按此逻辑可以问:西班牙的Basque、Catalonia也拥有自己独特的文化、历史、语言、音乐、Flag等,为虾米西班牙政府不让它们独立出去捏?(Why does Spain NOT allow Basque and Catalonia to become independent countries while both regions have their unique culture, languages, music, flags?)

加拿大的Québec、大英帝国的威尔士、苏格兰、法国的科西嘉(Corsica)、布列塔尼(Brittany)均可按此逻辑推导一下,美国的印第安人、澳洲的Aboriginal也可以拿出来扯一扯。。。

口号:

Free Basque!

Free Catalonie!

Free Québec!

Free Corsia!

Free Brittany!

Free Scotland!

Free Walse!

Free Abkhazia!

Free South Ossetia!

Free Pridnestrovie!

Free Serb-dominated Northern Part of Kosovo!

河友江城孤舟提供的多国语口号:http://www.cchere.net/thread/1483899#C1486437

5、有藉口免煮柿油而呼唤藏独的,不妨请看纽约时报(NYT)的文章:“How China Got Religion” By SLAVOJ ZIZEK

"...the problem with Tibetan Buddhism resides in an obvious fact that many Western enthusiasts conveniently forget: the traditional political structure of Tibet is theocracy, with the Dalai Lama at the center. He unites religious and secular power — so when we are talking about the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, we are taking about choosing a head of state. It is strange to hear self-described democracy advocates who denounce Chinese persecution of followers of the Dalai Lama — a non-democratically elected leader if there ever was one.

原文

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/opinion/11zizek.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

厚积薄发那也提供中文翻译文本。

建议:不妨把这些话带引号直接copy过去,根本不用自己再多说什末。

6、河友在下面提醒,西方媒体试图树立汉藏对立、挑动种族情绪,大家用词时一定要注意,请采用Mobs/Seperatists/ Rebels/Gangsters in this Lhasa riot这样的说法。尽量把视线集中在西藏分裂分子对中国民生进行的破坏,对中国主权的侮辱,对中国人民的暴力行为等。谴责暴力、强调汉藏都是中国人是主题

Tibetan and Hans are all Chinese. The violent roit in Lasha is instigated by Tibet Seperatists who have greatly upset the local public security and threatened the safety of local residents (Including hans, tibetans, mongols and other minorities).

外国游客见证拉萨暴乱报道、现场图像等

Tibetans attacked Chinese, say Lhasa tourists

By Thomas Bell

瑞士游客:

"The young people were in action and the old people were supporting with screaming. Howling like wolves, that's how they supported them.

"Anything that looked Chinese was attacked. I saw at least seven to eight Chinese people attacked with stones and fists."

He saw one old Chinese man rescued from the mob by elderly Tibetan people, and believes the intervention of a Canadian tourist saved another life.

加拿大游客:

John Kenwood, a 19-year-old Canadian, believes he saw a man die. "They were knocking people off motorcycles," he said. "One man was hit several times in the head with a large piece of sidewalk." When his attackers left him he was not moving.

Mr Kenwood also saw boxes of stones being supplied to Tibetan throwers.

"To me it was like it was planned," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/18/wtibet718.xml

中文文本

http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200803/news-gb2312-545878.html

一个台湾MM的Blog让我们知道更多真相 http://www.wretch.cc/blog/shiaolin&article_id=16779574

录像

CCTV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqoHt7BIueU

澳大利亚旅游者拍摄的

Tibetan protest images released

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/world/video/160000/bb/160356_16x9_bb.asx?ad=1&ct=50

最后一个从拉萨撤离的西方记者在CNN的访谈

Transcript: James Miles interview on Tibet

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/tibet.miles.interview/index.html

7、英文不好的如何留言反击对手?不能袖手旁观,拱手将网上的舆论阵地让与藏毒和反中斗士们,可以借助西人写好的、比较公正的揭露达赖之流真面目的文章,这样既可以回击藏毒和脑残的免煮人士,又可以让感兴趣的读者去追看原文。

这里有分解成短小段落、可供copy & paste的西文段落:http://www.cchere.net/article/1489262

揭露达赖及其所代言的藏传佛教的真面目:

·藏传佛教的求神问鬼、精神控制、大一统政教合一论:http://www.cchere.net/article/1484725

·藏传佛教圣战论(Jihad):http://www.cchere.net/article/1484748

·藏传喇嘛教的性丑闻:http://www.cchere.net/article/1484758

·达赖和纳粹、东京沙林毒气大王子麻原登等恐怖极端分子的亲密关系:http://www.cchere.net/article/1484875

·曼荼罗和世贸大楼的灰飞烟尽:http://www.cchere.net/article/1484906

8、西媒指鹿为马、误导观众的照片、视频与文章集中http://www.cchere.net/thread/1483899/7#C1487397

请转贴给身边的中外友人,另外,请集中多多点击这个VIDEO以便让更多的人看到西煤的无耻:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas

有youtube账号的同学,请把这个录像加入你的favorite,给于5星评级。

可以把这些录像和照片链接转发、转贴到BBS、blog等留言版、自己所在地的报纸和电台,让他们看看那些同业大佬们的嘴脸,也可以考虑寄给Saturday Night Live等类似的show,这些照片都是供这类show开玩笑的好素材。

9、揭穿西藏人口和文化“灭绝”谎言

根据UNESCAP(United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific)的数据, 1959年以前的西藏自治区人口总数1.21 million with high mortality and low fertility. 2000年西藏人口2.62 million with the mortality rate had fallen from 28 per 1,000 in the 1950s to 6.60 per 1,000 in 2000,the infant mortality rate had fallen from 430 per 1,000 in 1951 to 35.3 per 1,000 by the year 2000

其它的文化教育,如识字率,等等请看这:

http://www.unescap.org/esid/psis/population/database/chinadata/tibet.htm#pop

One-child policy is only applied to Han Chinese , Tibetans can have as many as they like.

西藏的所有官方文件都是藏汉两种文字的。中学和小学是藏汉双语教学。

Affirmative Action for high education. 藏族可以比其汉人低百分却能进入同样的大学

现在除了藏族外,还有7 million的汉人讲藏语。

税收方面,西藏是全国唯一不向中央政府纳税的省份,自治区内一直执行比全国低3个百分点的税收优惠政策,农牧民免收各种税费.仅2001-2005年这5年,政府对西藏的投资为31.2 billion RMB

10、为什末中国不能和达赖坐下和谈

第一,达赖集团坚持“西藏在历史上和文化上都是一个独立国家,不是中国的一部分”;(西藏历史从属证据见第一条)

第二,坚持要将中国军队和军事设施从西藏撤走,西藏地位交由国际会议讨论,西藏成为“和平区”“缓冲国”;(意欲制造new Kosovo)

第三,坚持西藏可与其他国家或国际组织保持外交关系;(西班牙、法国、英国、加拿大政府会同意Basque, Catalonia,Corsica, Scotland, N. Ireland, Quebec等地区拥有这样的高度自治吗?)

第四,坚持在包括青海、甘肃、四川、云南等省藏区在内的240多万平方公里的“大藏区”实行“真正自治;(历史上所谓“大藏区”从来不存在,西藏自治区外的这些藏族居住区从来没有归属过达赖政府的统治。)

第五,坚持要把非藏族群众从“大藏区”迁走。 (此地的门巴族、回族、羌族、汉族等世代居住于此,西藏不只有藏族人居住,把这些民族赶走,无异于ethnical cleansing!)

达赖的兄弟和高参们,在接受西煤采访时多次声明自治是走向独立的第一步。

具体分析达赖刚发表的那个两面三刀的和谈倡议:

http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200803/news-gb2312-554762.html

11、报纸、视频集中贴

链接出处

以上文字片断,欢迎随便使用、转贴,无需具名。也欢迎大家把好的宣传建议、文章和video等集中在这个帖子里。

If people have the rights to let their vioce be heard,

it should not be only the Tibetan Separatists'

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