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主题：【讨论】如果孩子升学面临不公平竞争，有何对策？ -- pkhelen
- 复 问题是考的人太多
家园 俺也记得俺考大学那年这些个名校在俺们省的招生名额 清华 42
北大 8
复旦 20
其他的忘了
那年多少人考不知道。按比例算，估计江苏的录取率还是要高些吧
家园 那要看你们那里高考的人数了 清华招生的老师直接跟记者讲主要是江苏考生质量好，所以我们招的多
家园 这个就是真的不公平了 如果在落后省份考和江苏考生一样的分，因为招生名额差别上不了，落你头上你会怎么想。（当然这是小概率事件）
另外，质量好多少还真不一定。从俺自己看，虽然高中没学过微积分，第一次上机实习怎么开机都不知道。现在回过头看看，貌似也不比谁差。从作学问的角度看，甚至还要好那么一点点。
家园 可能吗? 为什么有高考移民?为什么移民还不是因为教学质量不同竞争不一样.
我们单位一个同事在江苏上学去甘肃高考(父母在那里工作),在江苏估计本二,到甘肃以全省文科第三名的身份进的上海外国语
- 复 可能吗?
家园 不要用带偏见的现象来为自己的观点加分 山东某地，有上海投资的某矿，矿里的员工是上海户口，员工的子女虽然在山东上学，高考是参加上海的考试。
当然不可避免的在矿里的员工与当地人结婚时，生下的子女一定也要努力去参加上海的考试。
这并不能说明作为流入地的上海，其学生素质不如作为流出地的山东学生素质高吧？
- 复 可能吗?
家园 教学质量不一样是事实，竞争不一样就不一定了 不能因为俺们落后就说俺们竞争少。高考移民要禁止，是因为不公平竞争，不是因为竞争少。相反，因为名额少，反而更残酷。到现在俺还记得当年某同学通过班主任向我捎话，说认识我报那校来招生的老师，让我改报别的。否则后果自负的说，呵呵。
BTW， 俺考的时候还是全国卷，考分可不比系里的江苏同修少。是不是现在差距越发的大了...
家园 我在武汉上的大学，分数线和湖北同学一样的 当年是750分总卷。
jet兄，高考地域差异我们就不讨论了吧，得单开一章。
家园 人口大省吃亏，而没有好大学的省份更吃亏 都不说啥了。但这有什么好抱怨的。害怕竞争的结果是退化没有竞争力。另外，说道加分，我当年N门竞赛国家奖，也只能算一门。不如某些少数民族（大多数是假的）啥也不干就能加50分。但这么多年回头看，那些人混的都没我好。根本不用抱怨，是金子总要发光的。而且我现在还是认为，照顾部分少数民族的政策是正确的，即使让一些人钻了空子
家园 双手同意 害怕竞争的结果是退化没有竞争力这几天为着这个理由一直跟老婆辩论呢。辩论的目的既是为了讨论以后回不回国，也是为了决定教育后代的基本“家”策.
家园 看看多少CEO 是college dropouts:-) CEOs Without College Degrees
by Rebecca Reisner
Monday, June 1, 2009provided byBusinessWeek
The thousands of wait-listed would-be MBAs who may not get the chance to go to their dream B-school might want to draw inspiration from the following group of CEOs. Not only did they not get graduate degrees, they didn't get undergraduate degrees -- and some never even attended college.
Of course, not having a degree didn't stop them from being a big name on campus. You'll find Alfred Taubman's name at Brown, Harvard, the University of Michigan, and Lawrence Technological University; at least one building on each campus bears his name, although the retail magnate and philanthropist never finished college. Read on to learn who else made it into corporate top spots without the benefit of a bachelor's degree.
1. Dennis Albaugh
Chairman, Albaugh
Type of Business: Pesticides
Education: Associate's degree from Des Moines Area Community College
Fun fact: He has a collection of more than 100 classic Chevrolets
2. Paul Allen
Founder and chairman, Vulcan
Type of Business: Media, telecommunications
Education: Dropped out of Washington State College after two years
Fun fact: He persuaded Bill Gates to drop out of Harvard. They later founded Microsoft (MSFT) together.
3. Richard Branson
CEO, Virgin Group
Type of Business: Travel, radio, TV, music, venture capital
Education: No college degree
Fun fact: He became an entrepreneur at age 16 with the creation of Student magazine.
4. Maverick Carter
CEO, LRMR Innovative Marketing & Branding
Type of Business: Marketing
Education: 3.5 years of college at Western Michigan University and University of Akron combined
Quote: "Don't be afraid if you see an opportunity to go and give it shot. You can finish school later; it's always there."
5. John Paul DeJoria
CEO, John Paul Mitchell Systems
Type of Business: Hair-care products
Education: No college
Fun fact: He started out selling greeting cards at age 9.
6. Michael Dell
Founder, chairman, and CEO Dell (DELL)
Type of Business: Computers
Education: Attended University of Texas, Austin; did not finish.
Quote: "When I started our company, it was very much an idea outside of the conventional wisdom, and if there were people telling me that it wasn't going to work, I wasn't really listening to them."
7. Felix Dennis
Founder and chairman, Alpha Media Group, formerly Dennis Publishing
Type of Business: Publishing (Maxim, The Week)
Education: No college degree
Fun fact: He wrote a biography and published a magazine about Bruce Lee; sales surged when the martial arts star died suddenly in 1973.
8. Barry Diller
Chairman and CEO of IAC/InterActiveCorp (IACI)
Type of Business: Media
Education: Dropped out of UCLA after three weeks
Fun fact: He started his career working in the mail room of the William Morris Agency.
9. Bill Gates
Co-chair and Trustee, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; Chairman, Microsoft (MSFT)
Type of Business: Philanthropy. Software.
Education: Dropped out of Harvard
Fun fact: As a schoolboy, he created a program that allowed people to play tic-tac-toe on the computer.
10. Mukesh "Micky" Jagtiani
Chairman, Landmark International (Dubai)
Type of Business: Retailing
Education: No college degree
Fun fact: The billionaire mall developer flunked out of a London accounting school as a teenager and worked as a taxi driver before becoming an entrepreneur.
11. Dean Kamen
Founder and chairman, Segway
Type of Business: Motor vehicles
Education: Dropped out of Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Fun fact: Kamen founded FIRST, a robotics competition for high school students.
12. David Oreck
Founder, Oreck
Type of Business: Vacuum cleaners
Education: No college. At 17, enlisted in the army, and flew B-29 bombers during World War II
Quote: "Things are never as bad as they seem to the pessimist and never as good as they seem to the optimist."
13. Amancio Ortega Gaona
President, Inditex Group
Type of Business: Fashion retailing (Zara, Kiddy Class, others). (A Coruna, Spain)
Education: No college
Fun fact: Often cited as the richest man in Spain, he reportedly has never given any media interviews
14. Phillip Ruffin
Owner, Treasure Island
Type of Business: Casinos
Education: Attended Washburn University for three years and Wichita State University but never got his degree.
Quote: "You get the most experience from the business of life."
15. Alfred Taubman
Founder, Taubman Centers (TCO). Philanthropist
Type of Business: Shopping malls
Education: Attended the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor for three years but left to start a family and his career
Quote: "Become an expert in one fundamental area of your market or business. No one starts out as a generalist."
16. Ty Warner
Founder, Ty, Inc.
Type of Business: Toys (stuffed animals)
Education: Dropped out of college to pursue a career in acting. Later founded Ty Inc.
Fun fact: The plush animals his company manufactured retailed for only $5 in the 1990s, but Beanie Baby-mania drove prices up to $30 or more for the hard-to-get characters.
家园 college dropouts的原因很多 最强的人成功与否可能和college关系不大
但从统计上看
完成college学业的预期收入绝对比完不成college学业的高
家园 花你是金子总要发光，我本来也是这么想的 而且坚信 儿孙自有儿孙福。
我想我能提供的教育条件，比我父母当初给我的，肯定好多了。我能做到的，他也应该做到。
孩子未来如何，看他自己的造化。
只是希望环境公平点。
唧唧歪歪好像很小家子气。
家园 有的事情不能想太深了 环境公平当然最好，可是从古至今都没有公平的环境。
自己能做的是感谢父母尽他们所能给我们创造了一个好环境，并且努力在现有条件下做到最好
我眼里揉不下一点沙子，最恨不公平。说实话，除了极少数人，没有人可以保证自己没有曾经是别人眼里的沙子。眼界放宽一点，很多事情就看得开了