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      • 家园 看来兄台是个中高手,佩服佩服
      • 家园 堪称标准答案。河里高人辈出啊!
      • 家园 哇,原来经济学里有这么多好玩的,我,我,我心动了
        • 家园 Some advice

          The literature on auction is highly

          technical. You need a very good training

          in mathematics (particularly real

          analysis) to understand the journal articles and do your own research.

          Auction is a pretty hot topic at the

          moment. 3G mobile phone licence auctions

          around Europe show that a good auctin

          design means billions of dollars extra

          revenue for the government. And Ebay gives an easy and cheap way for economists to run experiment auctions to

          test economic theory.

          • 家园 大哥可否指点几篇经典的survey?

            不一定要最前沿的研究,关键是要讲得清楚。我就是想看看大致的意思。不会真的去搞这个,不然我自己的书就不用年啦。数学嘛,我倒不是太怕。我就是最喜欢能归结到数学上的东西,不然感觉空来空往,无处着力。

            不过关于ebay上的试验,我想知道点最新的进展。说起来我研究的有点相关,看看能不能去捣捣乱。我以前就老琢磨着能不能让电脑自己上ebay去倒买倒卖赚钱。

            • 家园 Re

              Paul Klemperer is the authority on

              auction design. His website is: www.paulklemperer.org.

              You can download his book "Auctions: Theory and Practice" from there. Part

              1.A is a good survey on auction literature, and part 2.A is a good

              introduction to its application. Another good survey is Ashenfelter and

              Graddy (2003) "Auctions and The Price of Art" in "Journal of Economic

              Literature. The classic papers in this field are Vickey(1961), Myerson(1981),

              Milgrom and Weber (1982). You can check full details of these papers from the

              surveys. Vickey (1961) won him Nobel Prize.

              Auctions on Ebay:

              One interesting phenomena on Ebay is sniping: a rush of bids in the last

              minute. There are several papers trying to explain it. Empirical studies run

              auction on ebay and analyse whether the bidding behaviour confirms the

              theretical predictions.

          • 家园 你说的是FCC AUCTION?
    • 家园 就一句,“匪类”千万别去搞国企改制。
    • 家园 虽然不懂经济,看这篇文章也算看出点道道来了

      最后只好委曲求全,丧权辱国地承认他的办法最公平。否则我就没办法看书了。

      但是,本姑娘没理狡三分,为什么 dutch auction 就比 english auction 和 Vickrey Auction 合理,为什么 open bid 在这个 case 里就比 seal bid 强,推给他让他想破脑袋去

      ――――――――――――――――――――

      这个世界,什么是能惹得,什么是不能惹得。

      没啥说的,以后在MM面前,俺会坚定不移的低眉顺眼,老实厚道来着。

      那位匪类同志,您的牺牲是有价值DI,西西河的男同胞们,会永远地的记住您DI

      ……(光辉形象?丑态,前车之覆……不敢再往下想了)

    • 家园 这样行不行?

      在市场上寻找同种型号或类似型号二手货的价格,作为该电视机的估价,然后付一半的价钱给B.

    • 家园 捅油油:人家是在谈Closed System的Game,你拉个外部条件来……

      不过RG的方式倒一定是错的.题目开头就说明了二手不好卖.(所以说明好买吗?)

      偶的看法倒很简单,因为这个Game一点也不公平.B不想要电视机,均衡点在于A的良心,也就是他肯给B多少钱.

      要谈Game Theory,最近的知识经济是个很好的题材呢.

      • 家园 我朋友的一点解释

        先说一句好不,如果说这方法错了呢,就说RG朋友错了,如果说这方法对了,就说RG对了,公开卖友求荣也是经济学一个CASE哈。

        关于这个方法对B不公平的问题,他的解释如下:

        I already have the answer for your question.

        Let us compare what A and B want.

        B: 1.Want to get as much money back as possible.

        2.Do not want to keep the TV.(It is called OPTION in Business terms)

        A: 1. Only want to give as little money back to B as possible, and don't care

        about the option of whether keeping the TV or not.

        B should pay more because B not only wants the money back but also

        wants the OPTION of not keeping the TV(B愿意不怕麻烦卖掉这个电视). The extra

        money paid is called PREMIUM in business term.

        Therefore, it is not unfair for B even if the TV is sold below market value

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