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              • 家园 jtian also here?

                here is good news in NYC:

                Prices Fall in Manhattan

                As Housing Market Cools

                By DANIELLE REED

                DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

                October 4, 2005 12:44 p.m.

                NEW YORK -- Housing market watchers can exhale. Prices in some of the nation's hottest markets are at least leveling off, and in some cases even coming down.

                In New York, a report prepared by appraisal company Miller Samuel Inc. on behalf of real estate firm Prudential Douglas Elliman released Tuesday showed that average Manhattan apartment prices fell nearly 13% in the third quarter 2005 to $1.15 million from $1.32 million in the second quarter.

                Housing stock is also staying on the market longer, the report showed, with the number of days it takes to sell an apartment increasing a month to 133 days from 102 days.

                The report was confirmed by other research, including reports from two other real estate firms, Brown Harris Stevens and Halstead Property. These showed that average apartment prices in Manhattan were down 11% in the third quarter for co-ops to $1.04 million from $1.17 million in the second quarter, and down 10% for condominiums to $1.28 million from $1.42 million in the previous quarter.

                Data released earlier in the week by real estate appraisal firm Mitchell, Maxwell & Jackson Inc. showed that average Manhattan apartment prices for co-ops and condos south of 96th Street fell 3.9% to $1.09 million, the first time in two years the firm had seen a drop in prices. The decline followed a drop in overall demand, according to Mitchell, Maxwell & Jackson managing director Michael Martin, as the number of sales dropped 33% to 1,031 from 1,528.

                The Prudential Douglas Elliman report also showed a decline in sales, albeit more modest. In the third quarter, the number of sales dropped 8.4% to 1,997 from the prior quarter's total of 2,181, "as mixed economic news weakened demand," the firm said in a press release.

                Not Just New York

                The apparent slowing in the New York housing market followed signs of cooling off in markets across the country. The most recent national data have been mixed, while reports from specific West Coast markets have been pointing to a possible slowing of demand.

                New home sales reported last week fell 9.9% to a seasonally adjusted rate of 1.24 million units in August, according to the Commerce Department. But the pace of existing home sales rose 2% in August to 7.29 million units, a near-record pace, according to the National Association of Realtors.

                In San Francisco, the number of homes sold in August dropped 9.9% to 662 from 735 sold in the same month a year ago, though median prices still climbed a healthy 11.5% to $745,000, according to DataQuick Information Systems. In San Diego, the number of homes sold dropped 3.6% to 5,379 from 5,580 a year earlier, and the median price rose just 2.1% to $493,000.

                With home prices appreciating routinely at a double digit pace for a couple of years in certain metropolitan markets, analysts have long predicted a slowdown would eventually take hold. In New York, prices "are going to reach a level that just can't be sustained," said Mr. Martin, the managing director at Mitchell, Maxwell & Jackson.

                Particularly with short and long-term interest rates heading higher, affordability may start to make buyers more resistant to high prices in the coming months, he said, at least in the under-$2 million market where buyers are more sensitive to changes in interest rates.

                But so far, Mr. Martin said he doesn't see signs of a bubble bursting. More likely, he said, there will be "a soft landing," in which prices ease up a bit and then level off for a time.

                • 家园 I was talking to xlin

                  Don 't know if jtian is here.

                  • 家园 而且问题的关键是我对你的三点都不乐观

                    经济问题很大

                    联邦政府估计是要往外挪人,而不是加人

                    本地新房盖的真不少,偶看着怕怕呀

                  • 家园 r u miat42us

                    听起来是miat42us老大呀.久仰.小弟最近卖房比较郁闷,所以发发牢骚

                    • 家园 我是miat42us老大的对头啊

                      看来我的粗体字都被读作论据了,失败啊。

                      这篇唐的正是质疑那位老大的房市繁荣永不变。昨天头一次去BBSCHINESE的房版,也没多看,就唐了一堆。后来再一看,这位简直是信奉房市繁荣的原教旨主义者,就差被我列为蓄意误导群众的不良房地产经济人了。我是美国中长期经济熊派理论的基本教义信徒,整个一个死对头。哈哈。(当然Fundamental 的因素要成为现实,

                      时机是很难说准的)

                      Xlin, 你是换房还是卖投资房,能不能问一下?不过往好里想,你卖的房肯定赚了不少,只是(可能)没卖在最高点。

                      • 家园 不好意思拍错人了

                        以为黑体字是小标题呢.赫赫

                        我也是米国长期经济熊派.本地这么多FNM和FRE的大老,好象都是在熊一边.这种崎型消费,虚假繁荣,总有要还的一天.

                        兄弟卖的是以前自住的老房.出租了一段时间,不过现在租房市场很suck呀.所以就先撤了.本小利微,浪费了在美国折腾房子的百年晾机.在国内买的房子不知道什么时候泡泡能起来,好不容易上海起了个大泡泡,还让党组织给挑了.呜呜

                        • 家园 敢情都是一个屯里的熊啊

                          你不错了,好歹喝着汤了,地球两边都算有产阶级,我还住着一个小TH天天盼着美

                          国的泡泡破呢。好久没回国了,不了解行情,什么也不敢干。

                          是泡泡总是要破的,国内大概是因为稳定压倒一切,怕泡泡太大,破了的时候不好

                          办吧。

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