主题：【原创】开罗清场之后 -- 晨枫

ParagAdalja

New Canaan, Conn.

Emotions, when it comes to things such as this, does not work for me. So all those here bemoaning the number dead, well it is what it is.

When the dictator Mubarak unleashed his thugs on Tahir Square, it was that the populace was fighting for democracy. For good governance. We were even led to believe it was an Arab Spring. Mubarak had to go for a liberal democratic Egypt to flourish, we were assured. A new democratic Egypt was just around the corner.

Contrast that with the present set of protestors. What is their aim, their want? To rule over all of Egypt, to mistreat minorities, to appoint civilian murdering terrorists as governors, to mistreat women, ... the list is endless. Missing from the list, a liberal democratic governing structure.

Closest comparison, not at all unfair, would be Hitler and Germany 1933. Winning a majority of votes, Hitler was invited to form the government. Hitler and his Nazi party did not much disguise their agenda. And it would be a different world today if Hitler had been removed, similarly early on.

Consider this : Under Morsi's MB the past fifteen months, Alexandria banished Christians and Shias and Jews and other minority citizens. They were asked to leave and most left. Some converted.

So when you moan about 300 dead or 3000 dead, it is necessary to ask what did they die for. Were they fighting for a liberal democracy? or for a right to practice their religion? or for a right to impose their religious beliefs on all?

开罗大学图书馆一间破烂的地下室里，一位年轻的图书管理员在昏暗的灯光下紧锁双眉。沉思良久之后，毅然起身，在地图上的尼罗河天险上画了一个圈，用浓厚的苏伊士腔阿拉伯语说，三十八年后朕的百万雄师就要从这里过...

And I can kill you if I don't like you.

Wow...

老毛多累啊。。。

埃及虽然实行义务兵制，但是军官却基本是世袭的，这和阿拉伯传统是相符合的，埃及军队在纳赛尔时期通过土改占据了农村不少比较肥沃的土地，成为了农村的富裕阶层。在军队长期统治后，政府的低级职位也被军队世袭。穆尔西在经济上按照伊斯兰教义均贫富，在政府里用兄弟会成员代替低级官员，却是实实在在动了这批中低军官家庭的奶酪，埃及的高级军官可是等了一个月都没有开枪。

就叫毛罕默德好了

自从埃及再次“革命”之后，永远正确的e，就不再谈及这个可能出现error的话题。出来为她洗地的，也就是那几个门下走狗。

http://bbs.tianya.cn/post-worldlook-851796-1.shtml#fabu_anchor

最怕为！一样的人欢呼

总玩此地无银三百两的游戏

取消访俄，奥总统来了一句——跟斯诺登无关

埃及这么大的乱子，奥总统宣布的制裁措施仅仅是取消军演，可人家又加了一句——美国不支持任何一方

不愧是炸药奖获得者啊

据我猜测，事情的经过是这样：埃及的军头们和大地主们，无法忍受民乱，导致利益严重受损，要求塞西动武解决。塞西在获得军头们的保证之后，向白头鹰汇报。奥黑子犹豫了很久，最终点了头。

现在的问题是，白头鹰已经利用军官团抛弃了穆巴拉克，如果再抛弃掉比孙子还听话的塞西，埃及军官团内的军头们，谁还敢出头替白头鹰争取利益？

塞西既然敢下决心动手杀人，而且杀了不少，那么，就一定会杀到底。这一点，军头们和塞西的手上都沾满了鲜血，只能硬着头皮挺到底，把穆兄会杀怕为止。

所以，我判断，塞西的军政府统治基础（主要是军方），暂时还算牢固。

至于动手的好处费，狗大户为首的海湾王国们，手上多的是钱。

不知道晨大注意过没有，狗大户家的亲王造反，那肯定是美帝暗中唆使的，想警告狗大户，不要玩火过头！

近年俄国在中东事务上表现出积极甚至激进的态度，保护叙利亚这个立足点是目标之一，更重要的或许是借此机会重新开始对中东的争夺。国际市场油价多年居高，俄国获利甚丰。与此同时，俄国经济对油价波动相当敏感，内外金主均不愿做长线投资。从莫斯科的角度看来，俄国发展需要的资金可能长期依靠资源出口，那么目前最重要石油出口国沙特即是其复兴道路上的障碍，因为沙特在相当程度上把持了国际石油贸易的定价权。正如俄国当年必须从瑞典手里夺取一个向波罗的海的出海口，必须与奥托曼帝国争夺黑海和进出地中海自由，今天的俄国很可能挟核大国之利，逼沙特“禅位”，由俄国来主导国际油价和生产配额。这个雄心壮志，沙特亲王是不可能靠大笔收购俄制武器的办法来满足的。

张高丽上次访俄，据称一次存下几百亿现金，同时许诺二十五年两千七百个亿的油钱。如果不是给普京战略的鼓噪，至少是默许。

和屌丝最对立的，就是他们了。

但是这个难度不小啊，普京也是有雄心壮志，缺乏实际手段吧。

死了600多人，总要有人承担责任的。这帐算不到穆尔西头上，只有塞西了。但是你说的也对，塞西抛出去了，后面还有谁会干？