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家园 这种情况,那个种族的人都悬吧

有录像的,警察叫停,还往上凑,不是no zuo no die 吗。。。

没有录像,我等看客还不就是估计事情如何,论据就看前科了。。。一个抢截嫌疑犯和警察,你估计谁有问题?

家园 瞧你怎么想问题的

我们推一万步,直接有罪推定好了,那么:

1.警察没有别的手段么?没有电击枪?

2.开枪了就一定要射死么?还补枪?

3.言语挑衅,罪至死么?

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一句话,草菅人命。

还有为警察开脱的,真不可思议。

培养出这样的警察的制度有问题。

培养出为这样的警察开脱的制度也有问题。

家园 是吗?

连警察都不敢像你这么说,要编个瞎话找杀人理由(可惜被拆穿),你就这么肯定?

当地70%以上是黑人,警队里才6%,这比例就很说明问题。美国警察和黑人之间关系紧张是秃子头上的苍蝇,明摆着的。之前白人农场主跟警察持枪对峙就没有伤亡,你怎么敢肯定这次换了个白人警察也会开枪?

家园 在一个枪支泛滥的地方

嫌疑犯有枪的可能不小吧。

不断前进跟口头威胁一样吗?

电击抢是单发的,一击不重的话,使用者就危险了。。。

家园 大卫教事件后

(死伤者基本就是白人吧?)

美国对群体对峙事件的方针不就是拖吗。

家园 很是奇怪

点看全图
外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

灯塔国的革命群众怎么没有学巴黎每年新年的“烧车”嘉年华,点点轮胎什么的好让全世界人民喝几声彩……

家园 在一个男人都有JJ的地方。女人可以无限遐想吗?

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家园 遐想成功

送花成功。恭喜:你意外获得 4 铢钱。1通宝=16铢

作者,声望:1;铢钱:0。你,乐善:1;铢钱:3。本帖花:1

家园 不断前进什么的,人都死了你还要不断抹黑

好了不扯了,上干货,看看人民群众的观感是如何:

外链出处

But many who have seen the video think it is anything but exculpatory. It raises questions about aspects of the story police told in the immediate aftermath of the shooting — Powell does not appear to charge the police with his knife held high, and he is shot when he is farther away than two or three feet, for instance.

It's more than just that, though. The events on the video happen quickly, but they also happen slowly. Powell does not move like a man who poses a threat. There is no evidence that anyone felt threatened before the police arrived. Even when he advances on police, he walks, rather than runs. He swings his arms normally, rather than entering into a fighting stance.

Powell looks sick more than he looks dangerous. But the police draw their weapons as soon as they exit their car. They begin yelling at him to stop. And when they begin shooting, they shoot to kill — even continuing to shoot when Powell is motionless on the ground. There is no warning shot, even. It does not seem like it should be so easy to take a life.

The police arrive and instantly escalate the situation. They don't seem to know how to stop Powell, save for using deadly force. But all Powell had was a steak knife. If the police had been in their car, with the windows rolled up, he could have done little to hurt them. It is impossible not to wonder what would have happened if the police didn't have deadly force on their hips, if all they had were tasers or batons. It is impossible not to wonder what would have happened if the police had simply never shown up at all.

It is easy to criticize. It is easy to watch a cell phone video and think of all the ways it could have gone differently. It is easy to forget that the police saw a mentally unbalanced man with a knife advancing on them. It is easy to forget that 20 seconds only takes 20 seconds. It is easy to forget that police get scared. It is easy not to ask yourself what you might have done if you had a gun and a man came at you with a knife.

But there is still something wrong with that video. There is something wrong that the video seems obviously exculpatory to the police and obviously damning to so many who watch it. The dispute over the facts in the Michael Brown case offers the hope that there is a right answer — that Wilson either did clearly the right thing or clearly the wrong thing. The video of the Powell case delivers a harder reality: what the police believe to be the right thing and what the people they serve believe to be the right thing may be very different.

This man needed help. He had a knife, but he also, clearly, had an illness. After watching the video, Vox's Amanda Taub said, "I keep thinking about the times when I have called 911 because I have encountered a mentally ill person in public who seems unsafe. I don't know how I would live with it if this had been the result." There has to have been a way that police could have protected Kajieme Powell rather than killed him.

视频在这里

民众在看了视频后的反应

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我认为不能怪警察,妥妥的体制问题。

家园 这都不是事儿……

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家园 美国警察就那样

河里不少在美国的,他们应该知道。让你别动,就别动,动了就开枪,必须打的不能动了,才停手。

这样的制度才能保证执法的威严,不然没有办法。像天朝这种动不动就打警察的,估计是世界唯一了。

这也是制度的问题啊。哈哈。

家园 怎么叫抹黑

写一堆‘观感’意义大吗?

还有小店录像他抢东西,别人报警,警察才来的。

当然看样子是精神有问题就是了。。。

家园 不如自己去试验一下。。。

祝你好运。。。

家园 美国对于向政府申报过并且按照政府规定的路线前进的群体活动

这类活动才是拖。其他类型的活动,轻点的跟“占领华尔街”一样倒霉,重点的跟“老兵游行”一样倒血霉。

美国很文明?相比欧洲对待群体对峙还更配得上这句话,好歹不会动不动的上真子弹。

此外回罗密欧,美国那边的警察很敏感的。让你别动就别动,至于持枪对峙,网上youtube还能搜到那个在家里拿着枪和警察对峙都算不上,然后被警察用mp5打成抹布的视频。

家园 小黑被打死是因为打警察抢枪,我是警察我也打死他

不然现在就是警察局的同事给我开追悼会了。

而小黑打死人就做几年牢而已。

验尸结果很清楚,小黑是在冲向警察时被打倒的。

一个身高1米9,重300磅的黑人壮汉向你冲过来,危险性不亚于一头狗熊

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