主题：中印发展的差距在哪里？ -- maykawa
首先计划经济体制遗留下来的问题仍然有不少，金融制度不健全，社会福利无落实，改革中受伤害的群体没有补偿，最近的土地开发、拆迁工作又有新的矛盾激化……太多勒。
印度总体来说宗教，改革，等等也有问题，主要是看那个政府能够很好的处理问题，这些社会矛盾激化起来都是定时炸弹。
中国的农村地下宗教泛滥，和农村基层组织建设不完善有很大关系，还有因贫困问题加入宗教的人群，随着农村人口流入城市，宗教问题也在城市泛滥开来。如果不处理好社会矛盾，宗教问题有可能就是引发动荡的起爆器。
印度人自己都认为种姓是合理，证明存在就是合理的吧，呵呵。
大多的技术内容是软件，印度到现在，还是一个靠外包软件发展的模式。有人说中国的经济，对外贸依靠太强，不健康，那印度的软件业何尝不是？
中兴华为如果单靠软件根本没有生存的可能。
把对手视为傻瓜的人是最大的傻瓜。我的本意是不要像有的人看不起中国一样看不起印度，没缘由地夜郎自大。为什么中兴华为都打进印度，努力开拓那里的市场？印度今年的经济增长率只略低于中国，被新加坡视为亚洲经济的两个引擎之一。想象吧，也是十几亿人口，要吃饭喝水穿衣，要通讯旅行娱乐，有多少机会等待中国企业去把握。
先不谈民主优势论，只谈逻辑。
反过来逻辑也是通的：印度经济落后+印度民主-〉西方国家民主-〉西方国家也要落后了
当然我不信这个
非洲民主国家也不少，中美洲也是，所以把民主之多作为唯一主要条件是说不通的，而且有了民主制度不一定能过真的产生好的政府和正确的决策。
到底是先富裕还是先民主，这是一个问题。南韩，台湾都是先富裕，后民主的。日本在战前恐怕也不能说就是民主国家。民主制度可能还要和很多其他因素结合起来才能成为推定国家繁荣发展的正面因素。
对手归对手，市场归市场。
您要说该把印度视为对手，就该举些印度在某些方面和中国具有竞争力的地方。
您要说该把印度视为市场，那么貌似就偏离了您的立论。印度是市场，可东南亚、中东、非洲、拉美一样是市场。这跟对手不对手的，又有什么关系呢。
无法从印度市场很大，就直接得出对手很强的结论来啊。
德国周围有两个老牌强国一个野心勃勃的大国，势力范围内轮不到他说话。
中国周遍都被收拾过一次了，在亚洲中国说话还是没人不给面子，否则4方会谈怎么都到北京开呢？
来的都是冤家啊。
我对对手的理解是这样地：在市场中买卖的双方是对手；在调研时，调查者和被调查者是对手；做广告时，广告主和受众是对手。
现在逻辑还混乱吗？
人家是发达才民主的
老说只有发达富强了才能民主,真到了那一天也不能一夜就切换成民主吧,至少现在就该进行一些实践和演练.终究也不能永远把一党的利益至于国家民族人民之上吧.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070213.windiarights0213/BNStory/International/home
Rights group says India fails to fight protect untouchables
Associated Press
NEW DELHI — Indians at the bottom of India's Hindu caste system are attacked, raped and killed daily due to their status, even though the rigid social hierarchy has been outlawed for decades, an international human rights group said Tuesday.
India has a strikingly uneven record of battling discrimination against its 165 million dalits, or untouchables. A former president and the current chief justice are dalits, but another 1.3 million earn a pittance clearing human excrement off train tracks.
Five decades after the caste system was outlawed, the vast majority of dalits remain relegated “to a lifetime of discrimination, exploitation and violence, including severe forms of torture,” Human Rights Watch said in a report written with the Center for Human Rights and Global Justice at New York University's law school.
“India needs to mobilize the entire government to make good on its paper commitments and end caste abuses,” said Brad Adams, Human Rights Watch's Asia director.
Indian officials were not immediately available for comment.
The report offered a slew of examples of violence against dalits, such as the case of a man beaten so badly in January — after demanding that his daughter's rapists be tried — that both his legs and an arm had to be amputated.
According to New York-based Human Rights Watch, 58,000 cases of abuse against dalits were registered in India between 2001 and 2005.
But the figure is thought to be a fraction of the real number because most dalits are afraid to report such incidents, fearing retribution from higher-caste Hindus or authorities, the report said. It cited a 2005 government estimate that crimes are committed against dalits every 20 minutes.
Hinduism divides people into social castes, and dalits, who have no caste, are considered society's lowest members.
Hindus make up about 84 per cent of India's 1.1 billion people. There are also caste-like divisions for Muslims, who account for 13 per cent of India's people, and Christians, who make up 2.4 per cent.
当然这个数字是夸张了点，但是论文比例是正确的数据。
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