主题：如何和老外做斗争， -- goon

大家出出主意。下面是正在进行的斗争

[10:29:17 AM] me: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002385----000-.html

[10:29:46 AM] me: Someone said Liu committed similar guilty.

[10:30:11 AM] me: F.Y.I.

[10:30:57 AM] colleague: in each paragraph, you can read "by force or violence"

[10:33:37 AM] colleague: http://www.hrichina.org/public/contents/press?revision_id=173860&item_id=172713

[10:33:54 AM] colleague: unofficiall translation - you can check with the original - if this is availble

[10:34:24 AM] colleague: and here the chart08, based on which he was sentenced

[10:34:25 AM] colleague: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/chinas-charter-08/

[10:35:55 AM] colleague: ok, the original is there

[10:35:55 AM] colleague: http://www.hrichina.org/public/PDFs/PressReleases/2009.12.30-LXB-verdict.pdf

[10:35:58 AM] me: You know this chart08. That is good

[10:36:58 AM] colleague: but this is in the verdict - this is the reason for his sentence - this charter 08 is there as proof of his guilt

[10:38:17 AM] colleague: Between September and December 2008, Liu Xiaobo, in collusion with others, drafted the essay entitled Charter 08, putting forward various inciting propositions, such as, “abolish one-party monopolization of ruling privileges,” “establish China’s federal republic under the framework of constitutional democracy,” etc.

[10:38:47 AM] colleague: After committing the crime, defendant Liu Xiaobo was found and brought to justice.

[10:39:23 AM] me: I have to say again I don't know the detailed reasons of the sentence by myself. The chart08 could be one of the reasons.

[10:39:51 AM] colleague: well, you can read it up. I read it, and I have the strong impression, it was the single reason.

[10:40:05 AM] colleague: but you can read the original, this I cannot, unfortunately