主题：求助：请问这个二手车值不值得买 -- p3p2p1

这个价格对2001的Honda Civic还算可以，但也不算good deal。

主要问题是这个价位本身有点问题，5年车龄10万迈，刚好是车的韶华已过开始出问题的时候。如果买旧车，最好是走极端，要么1000到3000刀的车，再打出1000刀的修车预算，能开一年就算回本，开2年就有得赚了。要么8000以上，买个好点的放心。相对来说，我觉得年份比公里数重要，有些里数高的是开高速开出来的，可以很压他的价，实际上车质量不会受影响。

俺的建议是别把预算全部用在车上，留出1000左右当作修车的预算，这样用起来修起来不至于不爽。下面是著名的craiglist上的一个deal.

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其实，偶认为是学生们最好学学开手档的车，能多找到很多good deal的

公里数高也不是洪水猛兽，偶的第一辆车是部88年的“可肉啦”(Corolla)手档，买的时候是10年车龄，13万迈，换车的时候已经16万迈。2100加刀买的，才合1500美刀，开了三年就换了个时间带和轮胎，一点事都没有，爽死了，现在还在想念中。

Civic LX这车呢，实话讲，就是给刚刚能负担得起车的消费者准备的 - 简而言之也就是一个发动机四个轱辘，其他的花哨功能也不要指望太多。至于有些车版上吹嘘的什么“关门声的厚重感”啦，想都别想，车身就是一铁皮壳子... 质量还是不错，也不怎么出问题。四年车上九万迈，看车时有几点要注意：

（一）轮胎：Civic原配轮胎四五万迈就磨得差不多了，即使五万上换了轮胎，现在九万二也又要磨得差不多了... 四只轮胎怎么也得一百吧

（二）电池：Civic的电池用不过五年的 -- 一只电池也得三四十刀

（三）O2 Sensor / Catalyst Tank - 这些东东统统被算为易耗品而不在Warranty之内的，上十万迈后就都差不多了。O2 Sensor一两百刀；Catalyst Tank就不好说了，如果所居住州要求尾气年检的话，如果通不过要修也得几百刀...

（四）Spark Plug - Civic 手册推荐三万迈一换 - 这个看具体情况：若发动机没有明显问题倒也不用着急

（五）Timing Belt - 推荐十万迈一换，同上。

（六）Transmission - 自动的怎么也得换一次Transmission Fluid；手动的clutch也会儿也应该磨得差不多了。

其他至于底盘锈蚀什么的，也没那么严重 -- Civic毕竟不是用铁丝儿编的，底盘有些锈蚀也不是什么大事。

象大家说的那样，要么三千左右整个烂车，开开就扔；要么多投点钱整个稍微新一点儿的。花七千多买个四年车呢，deal本身而言不是不好（再砍砍价就更好了），只是个人打算问题啦...

也查了一下Blue Book，如果将买自deler，这个价钱差不多；如果是从owner，合理价格应在6400-6700$之间。

不只是价钱问题，正像铁手所说，这个价位与mileage的车实在是不尴不尬。对大数车来说，如没有极好的定期维护，十万迈后将开始经受考验（不断出现或大或小的毛病）。总觉的买used car，要么就买八九成新的(如花大概一万块买一个一年旧的Toyota Corolla）或干脆买个两三千块钱的很旧的车，赌一把，睹输了扔了也不太心疼。

1，93000 miles， 年平均24000mile

这个里程是太太高了。美国市场的旧车年平均1万~1万5千迈，超过1万5的价值应相应减少$X00~1X00。前车主用的太狠了。（FYI：Lease新车的协议都有，年使用不得超过1万2千迈，否则Dealer会罚你的）

2，这个车常年在Maryland地区使用。冰雪地区不认真维护，车况不会很好，尤其是底盘，悬挂部分，很容易被盐水腐蚀。（我在Baltimore的同学说他们每年至少1~3次，把车从雪堆里挖出来。）

3，Civic Resale Value虚高是出了名的，很多时候同等旧车会比Accord还贵。大家挣钱都不容易，为什么买那个虚名。7000的预算，选择余地很大阿。

4，实在喜欢，争取砍到6700以下吧（trade-in价格, excellent condition）。

这个车是个印度博士后卖的，他找到纽约的工作要走。从carfax没查到事故或租车记录。但卖车的人说这车停在停车场时被人把后保险杠撞了。请问这有什么影响，大家感觉这车最低价多少,如何侃价。感谢beyourself帮我查VIN。感谢一切提供意见的朋友。

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Year/Make/Model: 2001 HONDA CIVIC LX

Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR

Engine: 1.7L L4 SOHC PFI 16V

Fuel: GASOLINE

Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE

Manufactured in: CANADA

Safety Equipment: Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts

Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM Cassette, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer

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03/10/2004 69,122

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Last reading reported on 03/10/2004: 69,122 miles Recalculate with current mileage

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Specific Components 96 months or 80,000 miles 42 months or 10,878 miles

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05/22/2001 Maryland

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Reisterstown, MD

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05/22/2001 44 Maryland

Motor Vehicle Dept.

Reisterstown, MD

Title #30905931

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Owings Mills, MD

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这个价格说贵的自己去查blue book。civic几个不同的x价格差的也不算小了。7200拿俩的你搞个我看看？MSRP1万6的车，4年就能侃到3500？？？夏翁请的那位好像都较你的水平很有差距。

麦数高也不是问题，看车主怎么用了，我同事就住在30麦外，每天开车上班，一年怎么也要两万出头了。

问题其实就是，你需要什么车？因为稍微旧点的mid size的车，对家庭更实用点。只是自己用，还是可以看看的。

偶的第一辆甲壳虫也是2001年的,才不过3万五千MILE，一万二千刀……

HONDA CIVIC的新车也就一万多吧？（貌似我的韩国室友就买的这个）

这车也就$35000拿下，这个价位你可以买更新的family car了。

http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/honda/civic/100001255/options.html

个人感觉，这个里程、年份、价钱的车很是不尴不尬，不如或者看高一点，或者看低一些。