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  • 家园 【原创】炒金记

    首先声明,这个东西不作任何投资指导。实际上,黄金的投资收益相比基金和股票都是很低的。风险越大的东西,收益越大,市场的基本规律嘛。与基金和股票相比,黄金不过保值而已。想发大财的诸位,还是去看月色的基金系列和老拙的股票系列。如果还想挣得多,就去读陈经的政治与经济关系问题。不多说了,自己体会。

    言归正传。

    本人两大爱好:一是贪财,二是好色。

    阿来在《尘埃落定》里面提到土司家喜欢把所有的财富换成银子,装在箱子里。呵呵,典型的马克思讲货币崇拜。我与土司是心有戚戚然,不过,我是对黄金而不是白银颇有好感。

    读硕士的时候,我做的论文就是中国汇率政策研究方面的课题。其中提到的一个观点,是未来的国际金融市场将发生巨大变动。欧元替代美圆的过程中,世界金融市场将更加混乱。贵金属(比如黄金白银)由于具有货币和商品双重属性,所以价格将稳步上升。不论最后世界货币格局是人民币、欧元、美圆三足鼎立还是其中某一家或两家做大,贵金属都将更加值钱。

    理论是理论,还要有实践。

    实践之中,黄金价格主要与三个要素有关:

    首先是石油。石油的价格越高,通货膨胀就越高。通货膨胀高,黄金就值钱。现在的石油价格是如日中天,想下降都难。黄金自然也一路高歌。

    其次是美圆。美圆下跌,大家就都买黄金规避美圆下跌的风险。当年上海金圆券下跌的时候,不是也是有(金)条有理吗。

    还有是世界政治风险。这个道理也简单,一打仗,大家就都买黄金啊。逃难的时候,一小块黄金比一大沓子钞票好携带多了。而且各处都认,世界通行。带不走的话,还可以刨个坑埋了。

    选择投资黄金主要有三个原因。

    首先,黄金不容易坐庄。坐庄一支股票,少则几千万,多则十几亿就够了。坐庄黄金可没那么简单。考虑到世界人民的购买力,和黄金拥有良,没有百八十亿美圆,别打黄金的主意。当然不容易坐庄,不是不能被坐庄。这个后面会提到。

    其次,黄金是实实在在的贵金属。即使被套住,迟早也有解套的那一天。相比之下,股票和基金就难说了。

    再次,我这个人比较懒,懒得挨只股票,挨个基金去分析,去优中选优。世界金价,全球就一个,不用分析那么多。

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    这篇文章,四月一日早就约了。一直没写,一是忙,二是觉得自己经验不足。季布一诺,值千金。最近心情不好,权且写出来,聊作散心吧。其实,欠的东西还很多,比如和平的《非典运动》,慢慢来吧。


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    • 家园 haha~

      提示:

      24小时内给同一个人送花的上限为6!

      [返回]

    • 家园 最近事忙, 没空陪侃, 花是大大的有滴
    • 家园 有谁对JIN.TO 有了解的能不能谈谈看法?谢了
        • 家园 对不起了

          除非飞人自己公布他的身份,请不要代为曝光。

          • 家园 老大,此飞人非彼飞人呀。

            我给的链接是jin.to这个公司的老总的介绍。“空中飞人”是记者形容那老总飞来飞去的工作状态吧。

            这点可能河里的飞人相似。倥偬飞人兄是在金融市场挖金矿的,应该不是这位在地里挖金矿的吧。

            不过,能被老大关照一次也是蛮荣幸的呀

            我再看一遍,这个文章实际介绍的是svm.to的董事长。所以我开始也理解错了。。删了也是好事一件。。

        • 家园 Thanks for the info
      • 家园 好股票,可是我不能多说
        • 家园 飞人兄,这金子也出了,股价不死不活的,怎么回事啊?
        • 家园 GOLD Finally starts to pour out!
        • 家园 飞人兄:

          在北美有没有什么给对投资稀有金属公司有兴趣的人读的入门书?

        • 家园 看了大半年了。最近有点手痒。

          常山壕矿的进展很鼓舞人心,其储量支撑现在的股价应没问题。那么大店沟的金子就

          是纯利润。新疆的几个勘探点的初步结果显示品位高的惊人,居然有十几二十克/吨。

          我记得山东招远的金矿也就六克/吨。我不懂探矿,不知其中水分有多少。就算打对

          折,也是高的吓人。中国政府大概不会轻易把这样好的矿便宜卖了。即使如此,这

          金山公司,也真是挖到金山了。

    • 家园 在美国买黄金的选择

      这是我在fatwallet上看来的,觉得满有用得的。

      Credit goes to gandhis on fatwallet

      Type A: Buy Physical gold

      Generic Cons for physical gold

      Long term Gains are also taxed at 30-33%

      Gold has some industrial/ornamental usage but for the most part, Gold by itself is not a productive asset. It does not earn interest, does not earn dividend. In fact, it costs money to hold it.

      Option A1: Buy from local coin dealer.

      Pros:

      no shipping risk

      probably good customer service

      Cons:

      Wider spread when buying/selling

      You will have to worry about storage

      Option A2: Buy from mail order / internet

      Pros:

      slightly lower spread when buying

      Cons:

      Wider spread when selling

      Shipping risk

      You will have to worry about storage

      Possibly bad customer service

      Option A3: Buy Perth Mint Certificate An century old storage backed by Australian govt.

      Pros:

      Smaller spread

      No shipping risk

      Very low credit default risk

      No storage worries

      Cons:

      2% transaction fee for buying. 1% for selling

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Type B: Buy Digital gold

      Generic Pros for digital gold

      No shipping/storage risk

      Easy liquiditiy

      Low commission

      Option B1: Buy the ETF called GLD

      Pros:

      Very small spread

      Very low credit default risk

      Cons:

      Long term Gains are also taxed at 30-33% unless held in retirement a/c

      Option B2: Buy the fund called CEF. It is 55% gold and 45% silver.

      Pros:

      Biggest PRO: Long term gains are 15%

      Pays dividend (very very little)

      Cons:

      You will pay anywhere between 6-9% premium to NAV but maybe worth it given tax benefit

      Option B3: Buy Gold CD's from Everbank.com

      Your return will wildly differ from the price of gold but principal may be safer. (may not be FDIC safe)

      Option B4: Buy goldmoney.com units.

      I have not researched this option but may be worth looking into.

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Type C: Buy Gold mining stocks

      The performance of mining stock may be better or worse than the performance of Gold for quite a few reasons such as

      1. how smartly did the company hedge its gold production (biggest concern)

      2. management factors such as making a stupid acquisition (notice the recent drops in KGC,GG) or making a smart decision (notice spurt in GLG)

      3. There are some gold pure play (eg NEM) but a lot of Gold mining companies also mine other metals (eg BHP, AAUK etc) So their stock performance also depends on general economy and how other metals perform.

      Pros:

      No storage worries

      Some stock generate dividends (such as AAUK)

      Long term gains are taxed at 15%

      Cons:

      Some gold stocks are traded on bulletin boards and border on pump-n-dump frauds.

      Mining operations are prone to social / environmental activism

      Political risks in countries where mines are located. A lot of Latin American countries are leaning Left and giving headaches to mining companies. Notice fluctuations in PAAS leading up to elections in Peru and the rise of Mr. Hamala

      • 家园 这上面有点错误

        ETF除了GLD以外还有IAU(利益申报我两个都有),前者先出来,后者迟差不多一年,因为两者都是每年0.4%的管理费,所以前者的NPV略低,因为多了一年的管理费。

        黄金白银在美国不根据收入税capital gains打税,都是根据collectibles, ETF也一样,28%,在IRA户口中买不上税,所以我整个IRA全是黄金白银。

        澳洲的股市是世界上第一支黄金ETF诞生的地方,GLD没有面世前美国金甲虫都是下去澳洲股市买ETF, 所以澳洲的网友可以在ASX上买黄金。

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