主题：请教关于美国大萧条时间对老兵讨薪事件的镇压 -- krone

上次和系里的一个小印聊天，一不小心涉及到了政治。其实我与老外和台湾同学相处时一般都不主动牵扯到政治讨论，因为大多数时候这是屁股决定脑袋的问题。都已经这么大了，因为教育，种族，文化的影响，对于事物的看法已经根深蒂固。因此谁也说服不了谁，最后还伤了和气。但是涉及到了就不能不尽力解释，消除误解。我和小印恰好聊到了六四事件，当然在他们口中是天安门大屠杀。我首先肯定了学生出发点是好的，是爱国的，但是方式不对，以致最后和政府产生了暴力对抗。在政府宣布戒严的情况下，继续对抗下去产生最后的结果学生责任更大。然后我举了美国在大萧条时间对老兵讨薪的镇压，并特别强调了坦克车的使用（因为大家都对那个栏坦克的例子耳熟能详）。他当时表示不信。于是就上喂鸡看。

In July 1932, Patton served under Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur, as a major leading 600 troops, including the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, in an action to disperse the protesting veterans known as the "Bonus Army" in Washington, DC. MacArthur ordered the troops to advance on the protesters with tear gas and bayonets. At one point, when the protesters resisted with bricks and curses, Patton led the last mounted charge of the U.S. Cavalry. One of the veterans rousted by the cavalry was Joe Angelo, who had won the Distinguished Service Cross in 1918 for saving Patton's life.

可惜这里没有提到坦克，显得我好象在说谎。晕，我记得李敖在北京演讲还举了这个例子的。还出示了当时纽约时报的报道（含图片）佐证。只好放狗再找，于是找到

On July 28, 1932, protesters known as the "Bonus Army," or "Bonus Expeditionary Forces (B.E.F.)," who had gathered in the nation's capital to demand an immediate lump-sum payment of pension funds (benefits) for their military service during World War I, were confronted by Federal troops (cavalry, machine-gunners, and infantry) following President Herbert Hoover's orders to evacuate. (While Congress had approved the payment in 1924, the bonus was not payable until 1945.) The presence of the Bonus Army was a continuing embarrassment and source of difficulty for Hoover. He sent in troops under the command of Brigadier Perry L. Miles and General Douglas MacArthur. The veterans faced tear-gas bombs, bayonets, and tanks. Riots erupted and the veterans eventually disbanded.

坦克总算看到了，但是还是放在最后。此外都没有涉及到伤亡人数，而配的图片也感觉一团和气，没什么价值。

因此肯请哪位老大能提供一些更具体的参考资料，最好是英文的。多谢！

• 对，美国人也开坦克进华盛顿，美国早把军队开进校园开枪射杀示威学生
• 你从我引用的楼主帖读起，看看有没有相及？
• 不是开创，给你看看美军开枪镇压国内示威的例子

Sorry I cannot type Chinese now.

I found a book on Amazon:

The Bonus Army : An American Epic

One of the readers wrote about this book:

I don't own the book so cannot tell if it's useful to your question. But in general, such events could be buried in dust and the best way to dig out the truth is to look into some academic literature, like Jstor. Also, American universities' history courses can often provide vivid details.

Years ago, I had a book about American military history, you may also find some details in those books.

Good luck and let me know if you find the needed referece. And you can even write an article on that. As a rule, cchere encourages research and conscientious efforts to recover historical truth.

资料足够详细了，如果说不够客观冷静的话。

参加镇压的有穿着整齐军装的麦克阿瑟，他的副官艾森豪威尔以及巴顿等名将。动用了6辆坦克，也开创了骑兵时代最后一次冲锋的记录。麦克阿瑟还违背胡佛总统的命令，扫荡了退伍军人驻地。有人死伤，包括婴儿，但应该没有现役军人。

麦克阿瑟在完事之后没多久就到菲律宾去了，直到朝鲜战争打了败仗才回国。

外链出处

• 对，美国人也开坦克进华盛顿，美国早把军队开进校园开枪射杀示威学生
• 不是开创，给你看看美军开枪镇压国内示威的例子

毕竟都是穿过一身绿皮的人呀,何必呢

一将功成万骨朽。也许他压根没把那些炮灰士兵当人，尽管他很会表演。

这个对抗还是很有意思地.........

政客可是不和你讲道德的。

中国需要进步，而不是躺在跟别人一样烂或者比别人更不烂上洋洋自得。

受教。