主题：【原创】介绍一位被施海潮试图极力“挖角”的内分泌和糖尿病的研究员 -- 寒塘冷月

他就是指出我的糖尿病帖子里多处缪误的河友青方，在此向青方致谢，并对我帖里的缪误向河友致歉！

施海潮知道以他的学术背景来经营他的保健品生意，有些难度，因此看准了青方的学术背景，极力挖角。

据青方的介绍，他是专门研究胰岛素分泌与糖尿病的博士后：

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看看施的“挖角”程序：

青方的回复：

现在施反倒在提供青方“在专业知识方面充电”的机会！

青方的回复：

不做回应

施再次出击：

青方的回复：

不做回应

施第三次重复出击：

青方的回复：

施向青方展开心理战术，施加道德压力，要真实身份，可恶到极点！

施是世界上唯一能治好地震糖尿病的专家，还需要向同仁讨教？

青方的回复：

施语无伦次，杀出了“xxxx无国界”，开始赞美“施教授”

青方的回复：

现在是青方向施“求助”了？天啊，施还胡言乱语地自我赞美一翻。

青方的回复：

天啊，施把解放军也给指挥了！！！

青方的回复：

无言！！！

天啊，一个人这么会如此说话呢？？？

引用施海潮No Gravatar Says:

六月 10th, 2008 at 1:39 上午

写给四川省红十字会救灾突击队的62位勇士们6-8-08

勇士们战友们孩子们，你们好!

救灾辛苦了!　

知道吗?你们在我们灾区是第一支很不错的突击队，大家都是我心目中的大英雄，今后在执行灾后重建复兴的任务中,我还是要对大家说「任重道远」这个词汇。

我要你们做的第一件事,还是「保护自己,尽力帮人! 」

只有能够保护好自己的人,才能够更好地帮助别人。勇士们战友们孩子们，在你们回到原单位后，敬请慎言,注意形象，不必多说我们曾经为灾区做了什么,那都是我们应该做的,水可举舟,亦可覆舟,我们不知道别人听了咱们的故事后,会怎么样,我老了,再也不能为你们一道承受些什么,只好敬清你们原谅我吧，黄昏赞美清晨，希望寄托你们，勇士们战友们孩子们，树欲静而风不止,现在起，—也许大家不得不在风口浪尖上挺住，好事好人，永远是做不完的••••••

可能你们也只能在极限压力下,保持沉默,沉默是金, 后方我的老战友XX博士,他的处世方式，永远是我的楷模，在我们协会里，他，才是真正的英雄，真正的成功者。我把他给的邮件中,部分很是”受用”的话转述如下:

在这次救灾活动中，你们奋不顾身，活跃在救灾第一线，是当之无愧的英雄。相比之下，我在后方则基本上没有为灾区人民做些什么工作，所以看到报道，倍感汗颜。

我即使能为灾区做些微不足道的事情，也是理所应当。我个人只希望能默默地做些力所能及之事。

所以请你们在以后接受采访或投稿时千万不要再提及我个人姓名。这是我的处世方式，希望能得到尊重,拜托了。

望大家多多保重。

勇士们战友们孩子们，我爱你们,谢谢你们!　遥祝你们一生平安!

你们的老战友向你们敬礼

青方的回复：

无言

倒是爱菊轩回复了：

• 看看青方河友与施的对话吧。
• 注意这段话。
• 一直在吹
• 施先生也说刘志民,张建新协助实施
• 花赞！！！

It is not surprising that Dr. Shi acted that way. If you put your life on the line to make a few bucks off these earthquake victims, you will do the same thing. I think that Dr. Shi will use the articles by Sa Su and Mei Shukuan over and over to show his image as the savior of Sichuan.

It is just the way things usually go. Nothing personal. All business.

no against on anyone making money from earthquake victims, but it must be by the way of providing them goods n services benefiting them, it is extremely despicable for exploring the victims’ dire mental n physical state.

It is amazing to see how these people “do” bizness.

1 地震糖尿病存在吗？

外链出处

Posted by 青方 on 五月 31st, 2008 in 糖尿病问题

看到西西河里面争论一篇关于地震灾区的文章，里面提到了指挥防疫的来自日本的施海潮教授，其精神可嘉，很值得敬佩。在一篇来自四川侨务网上的报道，提到了施教授关于糖尿病的一段文字，则不敢苟同，问自己一个问题，地震糖尿病存在吗？

再Google施教授，他开发了抗糖尿病食品，就是他准备捐赠的“抗糖茶片”，具体如下面描述的。

以前我写过很多关于糖尿病的文字，从目前世界的医疗水平看，还没有办法治愈糖尿病，很多药厂，无数的科学家都在努力寻找治疗糖尿病的方法，但对糖尿病知道的还是不多，根本谈不上治愈糖尿病，很多保健食品都吹嘘可以治愈糖尿病，这是一种推销产品的技巧，没有让人信服的科学数据的支持。

前些天，我也写了地震对糖尿病的影响，但据我有限的知识，“地震糖尿病”这个概念是不存在的。所谓地震等灾害引发人体的一种应激反应，以肾上腺素为代表的应激激素分泌升高，这是人体为应付自然灾害的挑战做的准备，这些应激激素都是提高血糖的，如果人体不能分泌足够的胰岛素把升高的血糖转移到细胞内，那么血糖就升高了，这就是应激引发的血糖变化，健康人是不会有这个问题的，也不存在地震糖尿病这个概念。

从这点上看，在接受捐赠的时候，尤其是药品或保健食品的捐赠，这些药品和保健食品不能，绝对不能跨越卫生部药物审批这个门槛，不能让灾区人民成为未经审批药物的实验对象。

敬佩施海潮教授抗震防疫的精神，但反对这种跳过卫生部食品与药品监督管理局直接捐赠药品或保健食品的做法！

2 再议“地震糖尿病”

Posted by 青方 on 六月 3rd, 2008 in 糖尿病问题

西西河里面对地震糖尿病争论的很厉害，其中一位北辰网友引用台湾的一项研究，摘要可在文后找到，这个似乎是一个地震能够导致糖尿病的证据。

仔细阅读了摘要，很遗憾无法看到全文，或者是整个资料，所以很多话是推测。这项研究的方法是观察震前和震后到医院门诊看慢性病的就诊人数，地震后就诊人数增加了，新诊断糖尿病和高血压的人数也增加了，所以作者得出的结论说地震增加了糖尿病的患病人数。

其实作者是很难下这样的结论的，因为高血压和糖尿病的患病率很高，台湾的糖尿病患病率大约在7%左右（印象中的数据），每次只要在从来没有查过血糖的人群中检查血糖，都能发现很多新糖尿病人，就是说糖尿病存在着大量的未被诊断的人群，所以新发现的糖尿病人数很大的可能是源自到门诊看病人数的增加上，就是说如果作者做一些统计学计算，把就诊人次增加这个因素排除出去，看是否还能得出这个结论。

地震后因为伤亡的情况，对人心理的冲击很大，从就诊人数增加这个数据看，人们更加关注自己的健康，对人生观也能产生很多影响，记得上大学的时候，能明显感觉到很多来自唐山经历过地震同学的不同，这个不同很难说的清楚。而糖尿病，只要人们开始关注，到门诊看病检查增多，发现新病例就增多了，这个不能说是地震引发的。

所以，个人观点，地震糖尿病这个概念，在没有得到令人信服的数据前，是不存在的。

引用

THE EFFECTS OF THE 921 TAIWAN EARTHQUAKE ON MOBILITY AMONG PUBLIC EMPLOYEES IN THE DISASTER AREA: ISEE-268.

ABSTRACTShttp://www.cchere.net/article/1636243.html

Epidemiology. 14(5) Supplement:S52, September 2003.

Chang, T Y (1); Ou Yang, Y C; Hsiao, Y Y; Chan, C C

Abstract:http://www.cchere.net/article/1636243.html

Introduction: On September 21, 1999, a powerful earthquake of magnitude 7.3 on the Richter scale struck central Taiwan and caused a total of 2,347 deaths. From the scale and the degree of damage, it is believed to be the worst earthquake in 20th century Taiwan. Past studies related to earthquakes discussed the immediate effects on the mortality and causes of deaths, but rare studies emphasized the prolong effects on the mobility. One cohort study presented the increasing numbers of incident cases of hypertension, heart disease, arthritis, and diabetes within the first 6 months, however, without the pre-earthquake clinical diagnosis or medical records, the relationship between the new cases of chronic diseases occurrence and the earthquake inducement was unknown. With the completely National Health Insurance (NHI) system in Taiwan, the purpose of this study was to describe the prevalent pattern of chronic diseases and to clarify the different mobility between the pre-earthquake and the post-earthquake in the 921 Taiwan Earthquake.

Methods: We carried out two sets of questionnaire survey to collect individual information related to damage of this earthquake and personal life style between 2002 and 2003. 3,637 persons comprised public employees and their family members were voluntary to supply personal identity numbers to link the NHI system for individual outpatient enrollment analysis. The data from March 21, 1999, through March 20, 2001 were obtained from the Bureau of NHI. According to the occurrence of the 921 Taiwan Earthquake, the outpatient data of this population was divided to pre-earthquake and post-earthquake time-periods with every 6 months. The trends of outpatient frequency and outpatient number of all diseases and specific chronic diseases were determined and the incident cases were observed during the two years.

http://www.cchere.net/article/1636243.html

Results: We observed that the total outpatient frequencies of all diseases in this population increased from 20,411 times in the half-year pre-earthquake to 23,103 times in the one-year post-earthquake and slightly decrease to 21,401 times in the 1.5-year post-earthquake. Male had higher outpatient frequencies than female and both gender had the same trend as the total of all diseases. In the outpatient numbers of all diseases, however, total outpatient numbers continued to increase from 2,677 persons in the pre-earthquake to 2,773 persons in the post-earthquake. The most age group to use healthcare service was 40-49 years old. Our findings presented rising trends in the prevalent rates of diabetes mellitus (ICD-9: 250) and hypertensive disease (ICD-9: 401-405) after this earthquake, but the prevalent rate of ischaemic heart disease (ICD-9: 410-414) reduced at the first 6 months and then increased in the post-earthquake. We also observed the numbers of incident cases on bronchitis, emphysema and asthma (ICD-9: 490-493) were more than other chronic diseases after this earthquake.

Conclusions: We concluded the prevalent patterns of chronic diseases on public employees and their family members were affected by the 921 Taiwan Earthquake, and the long-term effects of this earthquake on respiratory system would be more study in the future.

http://www.cchere.net/article/1636243.html

(C) 2003 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.

it is the same as selling Naobaijin as a healthcare product.

the victims targeted are earthquake victims，they should not go through another ordeal,it is bloody sinful!

Dr. Shi is not good at marketing. Also, his target market is way too small comparing to Shi Yuzhu's shits, such as Naobaijin/Naohuangjin.

做科研的人？俺在国内学术圈呆的时间短，就我在米国混的这些年来说，学术圈不是没有忽悠，不过呢人家忽悠也是有一定基础的忽悠，忽悠得也有一定限度。我跟人打交道少，象施先生这么个忽悠法的，我还真没见过第二个。

我是觉得施某的东西面向的市场当然要小得多，不过他的对象是真正的病人，如果病人误服误信没有效果的药、保健品而耽误正常的治疗的话，后果还是比较严重的。那个什么脑黄金脑白金的，我估计大多数人就是买来提高提高学习成绩的，大概不至于有什么真正的不良后果。

publicity shi is enjoying, I doubt that he is not good at marketing his products, anyway, almost everything can be bought by $$$

说的是，性命攸关的事，马虎不得！

Maybe there are lots of poor families buying Naohuangjin and Naobaijin for their children.

It is fortunate that Dr. Shi may not be smart enough to make it.

Dr. Shi,

the savior of Japan,

went back to China,

became the savior of Sichuan

the savior of China

the savior of Universe,

so on.

也佩服这些不懈追求真相的质疑的朋友，是你们的努力才有可能让骗子无处可藏，才有可能避免灾区的同胞成为小白鼠，而且是付费的小白鼠。

青方兄的专业操守，高！！！