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家园 [轉] 中國造一棟博物館只需要6天,第7天休息

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/27/arts/design/museums.html?hp#nouvel

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在 1934 年,美国人能用一年的时间建成 100 层的帝国大厦。这是一种类似的精神,他们当年想证明的也恰恰正是今天中国人所证明的。当时我可没见有哪个美国人抱怨帝国大厦有多低质量或不安全。其实真相不过就是:西方社会失去光环了,当他们看着今天同样的奇迹只能发生在中國時 ...

引用:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E76uJi744Do

事件的起因:有人在youtube上发了一个视频,结果引起各地人民大量围观,当然评论永远要比原视频有意思。

评论:

wazham2 17 小时之前

everything is possible in Japan

在日本真是一切皆有可能 ~

allin1readerwriter 17 小时之前 @wazham2

It’’s Chinese... learn to differentiate your Asians fool.

     dinmagic 17 小时之前 @wazham2

  This is China.

   LuizLHAM 16 小时之前 @wazham2?

  china, dude! china! !

   taroliw  4 天之前 4 推荐

  A 15-story building /done/ in SIX days?? Wow... just WOW.

   ocelotrevs 4 天之前 3 推荐

  That’’s kinda of scary, you could’’ve gone away for a week, and when you’’ve come home a building has suddenly appeared.

   palyman92 3 天之前 2 推荐

  Imagine coming home after a 2 day trip and you look out your window like WTF

   euromann12 3 天之前 29 推荐

  Imagine looking for a hotel room, there is no vacancy, and the receptionist says, “just wait for a few minutes, we will put up another hotel.”

    maurotamm 18 小时之前

  "We build your skyscraper in a week, buy 1 get 2 for 9,99m $, call now and you get this amazing parking house for free. WAIT, there is more, we even give you your own personal train station."

   MrMuseenglish 4 天之前 2 推荐

  that’’s gotta be the music from SimCity 4

   xinsky01 4 天之前 3 推荐

  all this is amazing, it is said the Broad Pavilion in Shanghai Exop was built within 24 hours, any video on that?

  太给力了。据说上海世博的远大馆只用 24 个小时就建成了,谁有关于那个的视频?

   AndrewNoNumbers 1 天之前 3 推荐

  That’’s why in 2012 the Chinese build the Ark

  deadmansvoice  1 天前 4 推荐

  and we wonder why china is going to rule the world : /

   MeketoaI 4 天之前 2 推荐

  This would have taken 3 years in the USA.

  这在美国得花 3 年。

   roan33   4 天之前 5 推荐

  In America we’’d still be going through bullshit protocol and politics for 5 years.

  在美国我们光是通过那些该死的法案和过政客那关就得花上 5 年。

Antwnhs92   4 天之前 23 推荐

  In my country Greece...they cant even make a doghouse in 2 days.

  在我的国家希腊……

     ak471deag   1 天前 7 推荐

  amazing stuff.

  here in Canada everything takes forever to complete.

  whole fukin day to clear some small debris from accidents on highways.

  small sections of roads take a whole fukin year. then winter the road cracks again from all the salt sprayed on it. so repeat next year!

  WOOD houses take like fukin two years.

  sigh

   foudo   1 天前

  @ak471deag : in my country building a round-about takes 5 yrs

  (回 ak471deag ):知足吧,在我们国家修个转盘都得 5 年。

  【= =0 这家伙是科威特的吗……】

   22871987   16 小时之前

  Chinese came to my country to build roads. Kings Highway took less then 50 days to finish. Buiding a seawall took less then 30 days, building the South Pacific Games Stadium, Pool, Tracks and field less then a month! My country is Fiji & Australia is whinning that Fiji is having ties with China LMAO - too funny!!

  中国人曾经来过我们国家修路。 Kings 高速花了不到 50 天就竣工了,建海堤用了不到 30 天,建南太平洋体育场,泳池,运动场地用了不到 1 个月!顺便说我的国家是斐济。而澳大利亚居然还在抱怨为啥斐济跟中国走那么近?!真逗!!

   polkjhgfdsaqw  1 天前

  i wish those guys could come to Edmonton. In one of the highways it took Canadian cosntruction workers 2 years to finish a road

   kamathln  20 小时之前 38 推荐

  These guys should have rebuilt World trade center.

   blkhauck  4 天之前 3 推荐

  This is why they are better than us. Our version of construction is 5 guys standing around and 1 guy working. DAMN IT

  这就是为啥他们比我们强。换我们的版本,工程建设就是 5 个人站在一边儿看一个人干活儿。

   mrjezerc  4 天之前

  That is why you should send your kids to Chinese language lessons!!!

   asiansjason  3 天之前 37 推荐

  man, the only thing i can think America can get done fast is fast food orders -_-

   allgood789   3 天之前

  Evan fast food in America some times still take 15-20 minutes to get your order. The quick that can get done in America is get devorces. Married today maybe devorces next week.....

   dadnesia   4 天之前 2 推荐

  Anyway, we can print money faster than these guys!

  至少我们印起钞票来比那些家伙快! (它們緩解經濟危機的方法就是將通貨膨脹轉移到別國,80年代廣場協議打擊了日本,前一陣G20又想禍害德國和中國未遂)

   PowerRizer   4 天之前 13 推荐

  I bet they bought it from IKEA. Build it your self 15 story hotel.

   weirdbuckle  4 天之前

  it is okay, it is okay, our building lasts for more than 100 years.

   kerinlau  4 天之前 @weirdbuckle

  Not really gonna last for more than 100 years. A road of quarter mile at front of my home had been messed up for five months, but will still crack in five years. If its in China, it would be a 2-day job, I guess. And another 2-day job after five years.

  (回 weirdbuckle )也不是真能撑 100 年。我家门前一条几里的小路坏掉施工了 5 个月,但 5 年内肯定还得照坏。如果这在中国,也就是两天的活儿。最多 5 年之后花上两天再修一遍。

   elbuggo  3 天之前 5 推荐

  When Ron Paul becomes President, Americans will complete a project like this in half the time.

  如果 Ron Paul 能做总统,像这样的项目美国人只花一半的时间就能完成。

  【 Google 了一下这位神奇的“未当选总统”: Ron Paul ,美共和党成员,德州众议院代表。他的政治主张是反对干涉他国内政,他特别指出台湾问题是中国内政,也不支持美台关系法;他反对美元贬值,反对向伊拉克发动侵略战争,反对在外地驻军,反对以反恐之名剥夺公民自由。他从七十年代开始便主张精简政府行政部门、大幅削减公共支出、取消联邦政府征税、废除联储局、扬弃令货币购买力不断下降的政策、返回 以金本位为基础的金融及货币制度。】

  【好可惜╮ ( ╯ _ ╰ ) ╭】

   c76h  4 天之前

  im quite curious about the foundation design of this building. any sort of reliable foundation for such a building can not be built in several days. furthermore, surveying, designing, off-site fabrication and mobilization, even procurement are part of the construction period. Construction is not only site works!

  whatever, good try to improve the efficiency of the industry and humiliate those arrogant architects.

  我很好奇这栋楼的地基设计。像这样一栋楼要打个可靠的地基可不是几天就能完工的事儿。另外,勘测、设计、工地外的生产和调度,甚至包括采购这都是工期的一部分。建筑可不是只在工地上的活儿。

  但不管怎么说,能提高工业效率又能让那些自大的建筑师难堪,算是个不错的尝试。

lidoz  3 天之前

  As a civil engineer u need to consider other factors. 1. FOUNDATION, it would have taken them at least 21days to construct a deep foundation for this building. 2. All those components were prefabricated at different factory, God knows when they started working on those beams and even design, it could have taken them months at least. Whats impressive is that all peaces came in time and the construction management was superb!

  So its not 6 days.

  作为一个民用工程师,你必须得考虑到其他因素。 1. 地基,像这样的楼至少也要花上 21 天才能挖出足够深的地基。 2. 所有这些组装件都是别的工厂里事先做好的。天知道他们是打从什么时候就开始制作那些大梁甚至着手设计的,恐怕最少也让他们花了几个月。这里真正令人钦佩的是所有这些部件都按时备齐了,以及卓越的建设管理。

  所以这并不单是 6 天。

    madklint  3 天之前 3 推荐

  Well it obviously took time to design and get all that stuff done just like everything else does, but the fact that they planned everything so well that they could construct the hotel in six days is AMAZING.

  没错当然先得花时间做完设计和搞定所有配件,做任何事都是这样。但他们竟然能把先期计划做得这么好,以至于能用仅仅 6 天就建起这酒店,这一点足够令人惊叹。

   maseratieeee  3 天之前

  right it probably took them a long time to design it...but dude now they can build them all over the place and take like two weeks to build each one.

  没错,他们也许得花更长的时间做先期设计…… 但是兄弟,现在他们可以把这设计用在其他所有地方,每一地儿都只要花两周就能建起一幢楼。

   Snowandrews  3 天之前 3 推荐

  There only a few factors to be aware of, so that this type of approach to construction can be much more universal. - A) SYSTEMATIC DESIGN B) PROJECT PRE-PLANNING C) MODULARITY D) SCREW-THREAD FASTENERS (bolts) E) PRE-MANFACTURED & PRE-ASSEMBLED components F) A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO ACCURACY, TOLERANCE, and ALIGNMENT G) Pre-build components & sub-assemblies, in a controlled environment offsite, and deliver JIT.

  只要留意下面这几个因素,这种建筑方法就能更加普及了: 1 )系统化设计; 2 )工程的前期规划; 3 )标准模块化组建; 4 )旋式螺栓; 5 )先期制造和先期组装好的部件; 6 )处理精度、公差和定线的系统化方法; 7 )在可控的工地外环境里先期做好的零配件和组装分件,以及按期运抵。

   realchimera  4 天之前

  Actually I can do the same thing without even trying. Like if I buy a desk from IKEA, I need only 30 minutes to put it together. But for a similar desk, it may cost more than 1 week for a carpenter to build it. Am I amazing?

   cyberpunkmark  4 天之前 2 推荐

  @realchimera if u put it toguether in 30min, u are not amazing... but the Ikeas designers who made this possible, they are...  

  youngien  4 天之前 2 推荐

  a lot of you are missing the point here, is not the build or its speed thats amazing here. It is the planning, the designer who design this. Think Ikea..... so you can screw something together in 2 hrs, doesnt mean you are amazing, its the designers job. This is an engineering Per-Fab house.

 

家园 space

 

  Bolero08   4 天之前 @EmperorOfMars

  I am not familiar about constructions that is why skepticism.

  In my current city Reykjavik, Iceland Chinese are building by part but it is not staying correct at all. Here is storm, earthquakes and a lot of rain. Maybe is construction on video only ok for Chinese ground.

  我不熟悉建筑学,所以我抱怀疑态度。

  就我现在所在的城市——冰岛的雷克雅维克来说,中国人搞组装式建筑可是一点儿都不靠谱。(因为)这儿经常会有暴风雪,地震和暴雨。也许视频上的这种建筑只能在中国那种地理环境下行得通吧。

  

  helloterran 3 天之前 3 推荐

   @Bolero08: dont look for excuses. The empire state building took only 410 days to complete. Americans used to be hardworking people who are good at making instead of consuming. USED TO BE.

  (回复 Bolero08 ) 别找借口。以前帝国大厦只用 410 天就建好了。现在只懂浪费粮食的美国人过去也曾经很勤劳过。“过去曾经”。

  

  indescribabledavid  3 天之前 7 推荐

  Why do I have this feeling I can tip this building over by kicking it...

  为嘛我总感觉这建筑我踹一脚它就塌了。。。

  

  MouSeDeEr95  1 天之前

  when the wind blows, the building sure will collaspe HAHA :D?

  一阵风就刮倒了吧哈哈 :D?

  

  gahoffm   4 天之前

  Just like everything else built in China, it will begin to fall apart almost immediately.

  这个就像中国建造的其他东西一样,估计马上就开始要崩坏了。

  

  bizman82   4 天之前 2 推荐 @gahoffm

  LIKE YOUR IPOD, IPHONE, PS3, HP, DELL, LOGITECH, NIKE, XBOX, BLACKBERRY and the list goes on and on.. I wish I can still find something that does not read Made in China these days.. LOL......

  (回 gahoffm )(像中国建造的其他东西一样?)像你的 IPOD, IPHONE, PS3 ,惠普,戴尔,罗技,耐克, XBOX ,黑莓… 要列单子的话永远都列不完……。真希望现在这世道我还能找得出一件没标“中国制造”的东西呵呵……

  

  

  AGNOSSI   1 天之前

  Slapped together = poor quality

  I work construction. Were not allowed to use most things made in China. From sheetrock screws to crane rigging...nothing Chinese made - because of the poor quality.

  China = cheap junk

  简单匆忙 = 低质量

  我是干建筑的。我们平常都不允许用大多数中国制造的东西,从石棉板螺丝钉到工程机械……没有一样是中国制造的——因为中国制造的质量不好。

  中国 = 廉价垃圾  

  

  CeBitsMobile   1 天之前 3 推荐

  @AGNOSSI : Generalization on one whole country is ignorant and stupid. Most of the high-tech stuff of today are made in china. You live and buy them as American products, but they are actually manufactured and assembled in China. American / European companies build factories in China as the labor and taxes are lower and then sell the product to you the naive customer and the rest of the ignorant americans.

  (回 AGNOSSI )动不动就给整个国家贴标签真是有够愚蠢无知。现在大多数高科技的东西都是中国制造的。你把它们当成美国货来买,但实际上它们是在中国生产和组装的。美国 / 欧洲的公司在中国设厂,因为那儿的劳力便宜税也更低,然后这些公司再把产品返销给你这个天真的消费者以及其余那些无知的美国佬。

  

  randeDANDE   4 天之前 3 推荐

  so many butthurt americans here. get over it. were not perfect.

  这儿有好多恼羞成怒的美国人哦,省省吧。我们不是全能的。

  

  onirocknroll   1 天之前

  I smell jealousy here.

  看来这儿有人嫉妒了。

  

  piperfawn1   4 天之前 3 推荐

  Hahah comment from occidentals jelous people are so funny. They dont accept the truth. Nowaday China is the real head of the world. Sorry but if this building dont fall, and im pretty sure it will not, you are just showing that you are drating selfish and jelous. Sorry occident (im occidental) but our golden age is finish the only smart thing to do is to accept that fact.

  哈哈哈那些西方人酸溜溜的评论真是好笑。他们不肯接受现实。现今中国已经是真正的世界领头羊了。抱歉但如果这座楼不会倒的话(我非常肯定它不会),刚刚你们所说的就无异于在展示你们该死的自私和嫉妒。不好意思了西方世界(我自己正是西方人),但我们的黄金时代已经结束了,现在能做得最聪明的事就是接受现实。

  

  btphy   4 天之前 4 推荐

  in 1934 Americans could build the empire state building in a year, that was 100 stories. Similar type of spirit and what they wanted to prove is exact what the Chinese do so as well today. I dont see americans complaining about how unsafe and low quality the construction was. The truth is, the west has lost the glory and now they only find sour grapes seeing the same miracle is only happening in China today.

  在 1934 年,美国人能用一年的时间建成 100 层的帝国大厦。这是一种类似的精神,他们当年想证明的也恰恰正是今天中国人所证明的。当时我可没见有哪个美国人抱怨帝国大厦有多低质量或不安全。其实真相不过就是:西方社会失去光环了,当他们看着今天同样的奇迹只能发生在中国时,他们只有酸葡萄。

  piperfawn1  4 天之前 23 推荐

  To all people that hate instead to apreciate this impressive job i say that usualy hate and jelousy are the only bitter things that remains in the hands of losers.

  Great job China i hope you can lead the world to a new era with your strenght.

  对所有那些不是怀抱着欣赏,而是怀抱着憎恨态度看待这项出色工作的人我只想说一句:通常憎恨与嫉妒正是失败者手中仅剩的苦果。

  干得漂亮中国人。希望你们能用你们的优势在新的时代中领导世界。

  

  projectcares 4 天之前

  Chinese may seem "like ants" compared to G7 euro giants ... but they are the mightiest and most hardworking beings I know - they say, "in the end, China will win." With all admiration in terms of work attitudes, we have a lot to learn from the Chinese - if they can do this amazing feat, why cant we? Congratulations for this achievement!

  比起欧洲的七大巨头来说,中国人看上去也许像是“蚂蚁”……但他们是我所知的最为强大也最努力的生物——人们说“最终的胜利将属于中国”。怀着对敬业精神的钦佩,我们能从中国人身上学到很多东西——如果他们能做出如此惊人的业绩,为何我们不能呢?对这项成就谨表祝贺!

  

  TayouJin  4 天之前

  Cool! Looks very well thought out on the engineering front. I used to be amazed when theyd pop up a 7eleven in a couple of weeks in Japan. Not any more.

  Our Chinese brothers and sisters are catching on technologically.

  真酷!从工程面来看构想的非常不错。我过去还惊叹日本人能在几个礼拜之内建起一家 711 ,不过打这以后就不会了。

  看来我们的中国兄弟们已经在技术上迎头赶上了呢。

  【从这家伙的 ID 地区显示,外加他收藏视频,外加好友留言看,基本判断他的确是个日本人。想想看过的站里的日文帖子,不敢置信的感觉油然而生。。】

  

  

  ironbull2003   3 天之前

  to be fair you have to take into account several things

  a) They worked 24 hours/day, so thats about 4-6 work days in America

  b) much of the parts were already assembled

  c) considering it is a chinese product, this building would collapse at the slightest earthquake...

  Its nice that they did it so fast... but pointless... a lot of little things were probably overlooked in the process too..

  为公平起见你还得考虑以下几件事儿:

  1 )他们一天工作 24 小时,而这在美国相当于工作 4-6 天

  2 )很多部件都是事先组装好的

  3 )鉴于这是中国制造的产物,这建筑估计都顶不了最轻微的地震

  他们能这么快竣工不错…… 但毫无意义……而且在这个过程中很多细微之处可能都被忽视了……

  

  

  Basketballbat   3 天之前 @ironbull2003

  Level 9 Earthquake Resistance, hard to read the de***ion or does the facts hurt your pride that much?

  (回 ironbull2003 )(这楼是)九级抗震。你到底是读不懂说明呢,还是这个事实实在太伤你自尊了所以选择性无视?

  

  reinfred2007 4 天之前

  Quality is the god here in America! We spent 7 years on the NJ-Hudson tunnel, we will spend more time on it!!!! And well spent another 30 years on the new WTC!

  在美国质量是王道!建新泽西的哈德逊隧道我们已经花了 7 年,而且我们还打算花上更多时间!!!!之后再花个 30 年建新的世贸中心好了!

  

  maseratieeee  3 天之前

  we may not build really fast, but god DAMN!!! did you see how fast we flattened Hiroshima?! oooo and remember Nagasaki?!! WOW

  论建造我们美国人也许是不够快,但是见鬼去吧!!!你们没看到俺们平了广岛的速度有多快?!喔喔喔还记不记得长崎呢?!!

  

  Playsitlouder3 天之前 3 @maseratieeee

  For fucks sake, that was Japan not China. Please dont make all Americans look like retards. Good job Chinese people!

  看在草泥马大神的份儿上,(广岛 / 长崎)那是日本,不是中国!别因为你一个人而让人觉得所有美国人都是弱智。干得漂亮中国人!

  

  Triumphit1 3 天之前 @maseratieeee

  another troll on the internet. Good job looking like a freaking douchbag who doesnt know about History. Hiroshima + Nagasaki = Japan

  (指 maseratieeee )又是一个网愤。你的表现真不愧为一个对历史一无所知的脑残。广岛 + 长崎 = 日本。

  

  vplane007 3 天之前 3 推荐

  This is why American ranks #1 in confidence, and 28 in academics

  这就是为啥美国人的学术水平只排名 28 ,自信程度倒是排第一。

  

  tib080808 1 天前

  Its more interesting to read the comments than watching the video.

  看评论比看视频有趣多了。

  

  cucxoimap  4 天之前

  I dare not to use stuffs made in China :D

  我从不敢用中国制造的东西 :D

  

  havocrein 4 天之前 @cucxoimap

  you are proberbly using it right now.

  (回 cucxoimap )你八成现在就正在用着。

  

  Lamthalas  4 天之前 @cucxoimap

  Since you dare not using stuffs made in China, can I have you computer?

  (回 cucxoimap )既然你不敢用中国制造的东西,那可以把你的电脑给我吗?

  

  copperpot77 4 天之前 @cucxoimap

  Can I haz your computer? Cellphone? TV?

  (回 cucxoimap )那可以把你的电脑、手机、电视给我吗?

  

  giorkaro8971  3 天之前

  Made in China, with chinese drywall, chinese appliances and underpaid chinese workers???? The building will fall down in six months!!!!

  中国制造,用中国土墙,中国设备和低薪的中国工人????这楼 6 个月内就得塌了。

  

  aristotledude 3 天之前 @giorkaro8971:

  It has a steel frame construction and is built to be "EARTHQUAKE" resistant. Stop being such an ignorant racist.

  (回 giorkaro8971 )它是钢筋架构而且是按 “防震”功能来建造的。别表现得像个脑残的愤青。

  

  TheLamarPie 3 天之前 @giorkaro8971

  Your a dumass, go look up those terms in the video...Stop hattin, face the fact in 10 years, China will be way above the US, you could sense US Foreign Policy struggling already, selling advance weapons to Chinas Neighbors for a future war...

  (回 giorkaro8971 )去看看视频说明先…… 停止憎恨面对现实吧,现实就是 10 年之内中国将会超越美国一大截。你能感觉得出美国的外交政策已经是在垂死挣扎了:把先进武器卖给中国的邻国们,准备未来要打场战争。

  

  ezyflyer  1 天之前 5 推荐

  90 Hours? Thats nothing, the Americans can destroy two skyscrapers in just 2 hours!

  90 个小时有啥了不起的,美国人两个小时就能毁掉两座摩天大楼!

  

  airr916  3 天之前 6 推荐

  I think people are stereotype and saying that everything made in China is fucking sucks. Just look around you and all your shits, even the computer monitor in front of you or your itouch/ipod. Almost every high-tec are made in china now and you guys just didnt realize. And please give at least some credit to these people who actually built this hotel and the engineers...jeez

  我看那些嚷嚷所有中国制造都是垃圾的人根本是食古不化。看看你周围的所有那些玩意儿,甚至包括你眼前的电脑显示屏,你的苹果手机 /MP3 。你们只是没意识到,现在几乎所有高科技玩意都是中国制造。还有至少请给这酒店的建设者和工程师们一些尊重 Orz …

  

  maseratieeee 3 天之前 6 推荐

  they are advancing REALLY fast. all we do in america is bitch about it and talk shit and wait for someone to "fix" it. we advanced really fast a long time ago. i wish we would do it again, but i think its Chinas turn.

  他们进步得非常之快。而我们美国人所做的就只有挖苦人家,说说废话以及等着别人来处理。我们很久以前也曾经进步的很快,我真盼望我们能像从前那样再做一次。但我看下面是该到中国出场了。

  

  Ardenwolfe 3 天之前

  Yes, they are the next Superpower. Between the new bullet train and this, no doubt.

  是的,他们是下一代超级霸权。且看看他们新的子弹头列车和这个视频吧,毫无疑问。

  

  TheLamarPie 3 天之前

  Most Comments here are mostly Americans, saying what? Talking crap cause their jealous. Im AMERICAN myself, but everyone has to face it, were NOT the superpower anymore. Stop Complaining, do something to help this country move forward instead of sitting on your asses watching tv

  大多数在这儿评论的都是美国人,猜猜怎么着?他们因为嫉妒而废话个不停。我自己也是美国人,但每个人都得直面现实,我们不再是超级霸权了。停止抱怨,干点儿能有助这个国家发展的事吧,而不是整天窝在家看电视。

  

  jimmiepatrick 3 天之前 77 推荐

  An American company would have done just as good a job only milked it for months and took weekends off and asked for more money per hour. We are so greedy and lazy and self centered and that plays a big role in why our economy is going down the toilet and Chinas is skyrocketing. Look at the work ethic of the Chinese and then look at all the people around you. Its pathetic. People need to get off the couch and stop playing Call of Duty and BE SOMETHING!!!

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