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家园 保时捷如是说:GT-R这颗葡萄很酸。(修改版)

今年汽车业的大事之一便是雷诺所属的日产公司推出了GT-R跑车。 这车一出场便得到了摇滚明星般的待遇。各大汽车杂志网站对其好评如潮。

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而日产公司在该车发布会上更是放了段GT-R在著名的德国赛车场Nürburgring race circuit上创出 7:29:03 纪录(最高速度311km/H)的短片。很是轰动。

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在该车正式销售之前,许多媒体得到了日产的样车试驾,在许多对比试验中,如C/D,M/T,R/T,AUTOCAR等等,GT-R打败了保时捷911GT2。这让保时捷非常受刺激。 而GT-R在欧洲的第一量车便被不知名的神秘顾客买走。

最近,保时捷宣布,由保时捷试车手进行的GT-R,911TURBO和GT2对比试验中,GT-R的速度是七分五十四秒,比日产宣布的数据慢了25秒。 保时捷接着说,他们试验的是美国版的GT-R,根本跑不了那么快,日产公布的数据肯定来自安装了比赛用轮胎。

"This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car. For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tires," says August Achleitner, the man in charge of the 911 program.( There is footage of the GT-R lapping the 'Ring at high speed, but it's taken from inside the car where the tires cannot be seen.)

而日产马上回应道,他们是采用了OPTION中的DUNLOP轮胎。而他们的试车手是赛车手Tochio Suzuki。跑这么七分二十九秒绝对是真的。

家园 GT-R终于要来北美啦

这么牛的车,为啥以前不往北美卖呢?说起来,北美车迷们对这个名字也算是久仰大名了吧。难道是日本人不肯?这倒是有点符合鬼子的传统,就像日产的总统和丰田的世纪一样。

家园 已经来了

我的同事就有一辆。这对911是很致命的,从绝对速度、质量、耐用性、实用性,都比911有过之无不及。

过去GT-R不想费federalization的事,担心销量达不到一定的水平,得不偿失。GT-R只在日本卖,英国有灰色市场,仅此而已。

家园 几个月前加拿大美国都正式有销售,加拿大8万起。

才八万加元啊!

家园 你跟那同事套套近乎想办法试一下车。
家园 那还不如要了他的命了
家园 今天路过一dealer,大牌子:GTR is here!

貌似很畅销很受欢迎

家园 GRT之前一直没有左舵版本

所以北美一直没有GTR

家园 GTR和911的市场定位在我看来只有很少的重合

基本在赛道上这两者才会见面:但这时哪辆车不改装呢?价格差一倍,波尔舍这样有点跌份呀。

GTR的维护不便宜,下一次赛道就要Major Service。澳洲在官方版本发行前已经有几十辆私人进口的,确实是好车。

家园 这辆车是不是改装过?

为什么没见到赛车手换档呢?只在最后结束换到Parking档

家园 Double Clutch ...........
家园 尼桑回击:会不会开GT-R啊?我可以教教你。

日本汽车公司向来对德国的同行对手是比较低调的。 为何现在尼桑牛了起来了呢? 我个人猜测是尼桑老板,那个法国人卡洛斯的缘故。 法国人对德国人嘛,哈哈,不用说了,心里的那口气。。。汽车这个东西有是非常情绪化的东西。可惜的是法国汽车在德国汽车面前总是低一头的。 现在卡洛斯手里有了尼桑,而尼桑在汽车工程上的底子在世界汽车工业属于名列前矛的, 卡洛斯绝对不会不利用这个机会的。 最近我还看到网上小道消息说尼桑的新Z370就是要全方位压倒保时捷的CAYMAN。

下面应用长了点,但最后两段尼桑口气实在厉害:1)你得学会怎么养车,2)不会开我们的车我们可以办个学习班教教你。

Nissan Motor Company Ltd.

Global Communications

October 9, 2008

Statement

NISSAN GT-R TEST PROCEDURES

In light of comments made recently in the media concerning the testing of the Nissan GT-R, it is clear that there are some important facts that were not accurately represented.

Background

On September 24, 2007 the Nissan GT-R recorded a lap time of the Nordschleife circuit at Germany's Nurburgring of seven minutes and 38 seconds. This lap time was completed in weather conditions that the Nissan test team knew would not show the full potential of the car.

On April 17, 2008 the Nissan test team was back at the Nurburgring and recorded a new lap time of seven minutes and 29 seconds, several times.

For all testing at the Nurburgring and other circuits such as Sendai Highlands in Japan, the GT-R development team used production specification vehicles with production specification tires. These tests are part of the extensive performance and durability program undertaken before, during and after the commercial introduction of the GT-R.

The GT-R is a world-class supercar developed to be sold in multiple global markets. While specifications can differ across the various markets, the cars used to record both Nurburgring lap times were identical to the Japanese market production specification cars.

For the April 2008 test, the GT-R carried an additional 50kg of weight due to the Marelli data recorder and video camera equipment. In addition, the test was witnessed by 'Best Motoring' magazine from Japan who reported the test in their July 2008 issue, which included a DVD program of the session.

Nissan records the lap times around the Nurburgring using the same methodology and measuring locations as Sport Auto Magazine in Germany. Sport Auto Magazine provides the most consistent and objective measurement of lap times around the Nurburgring, allowing accurate comparisons between different vehicles.

In both timed lap sessions at the Nurburgring, chief test driver and professional racing driver, Toshio Suzuki was at the wheel. Suzuki has been the chief test driver on the GT-R program throughout the vehicle's development.

Tires

The GT-R offers two different tire choices for customers:

Bridgestone POTENZA RE070R

Dunlop SP SPORT 600 DSST CTT

For the tests conducted at the Nurburgring where the lap times of 7:38 and 7:29 were recorded, the Dunlop tires were used. The tires – which are designed for high performance driving in the dry and wet - used in the tests were identical to the production specification tires available to GT-R customers.

In June, 2008 Dunlop Japan issued a press release announcing that their tires had been used by Nissan to record the 7:29 lap time. The release can be accessed in Japanese and English at:

http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2008/2008_039.htm

http://www3.srigroup.co.jp/CACHE/news_news_e_newsobj144_2008.cfm

For any media interested in seeing the actual tires used at the test (7:29 lap time), they should contact the Public Relations Department at Sumitomo Rubber Industries, Ltd. in Japan.

Driving the GT-R

Consistent with industry benchmarking practices, we are aware that several auto makers have purchased the GT-R for their own testing and evaluation. Like all GT-R customers, we recommend that any auto maker buying a GT-R should follow the recommended run-in procedures, service schedules and maintenance to ensure the maximum performance from their car.

In addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current GT-R owners to help them get the best performance from their car. We would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the GT-R.

Remarks

From Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer and Chief Product Specialist for GT-R:

"We have used circuits like the Nurburgring and Sendai extensively during the development of the GT-R. The fastest lap-time was never the objective but a simple parameter for us to measure the GT-R in a consistent way against other world class supercars."

"Testing a car with specialized parts such as unique tires or suspension has no meaning for us. The GT-R was designed from the start to be a supercar that could be driven anywhere, anytime and by anyone. For us, testing the car in standard production specification is far more relevant than creating a one-off vehicle that our customers cannot buy."

Conclusion

Due to the weather conditions at the Nurburgring, testing has now stopped and will resume around April 2009. Nissan will be back at the Nurburgring testing both the standard GT-R and upcoming additional models. We look forward to welcoming more members of the media to join us for these test sessions, consistent with our transparency at previous test sessions.

家园 昨天看了,很搞笑,不过也没什么不对

这个是所谓的Street Lagal 的选配件, 倒也的确没有用半融胎之类的轮胎。

在相似发动机(3.6-3.8L 双Turbo)四轮驱动跑车中,尼桑客户只要用低于一半的价格就可以享受911GT2的性能,这个才是波尔舍受不了的地方。

4门版的GTR 日本已经出了样车,很期待呀。

家园 那让我们等着看媒体是怎样对比Z370和CAYMAN吧。

让保时捷气恼的还有是大部分媒体的对比试验(就我看到的)都说GT-R的操纵感觉好于911 GT2/TURBO。 这不光是说价钱便宜,而且东西还比你的好, 这让保时捷受不了。

加拿大SUBARU IMPREZA上市的广告也很猛:A CAR THAT GERMAN WISH TO MAKE。 他们的电视广告里几个德国工程师唱着德国歌开着impreza很乐的样子,然后被他们的德国主管恶狠狠地瞪着。 收音机里的广告也类似。 这样对德挑衅的态度以前是没有的。

家园 Wow it really hums

荷诺很滥,但尼桑娶了她以后车子做得越来越欧陆,基本上都是又性感又优雅

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