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家园 【整理】华尔街头版--中国5代机

这篇文章很有意思,随便翻译一下,并夹带点自己的私货,嘿嘿

中国的黑丝带?

By JEREMY PAGE

在中国西部进行滑行测试中的隐身战斗机原型机图

北京--第一张清晰的中国黑丝带原型机图,在美国国防部长罗伯特-盖茨即将前往北京试图改善双方军事关系的前几天, 在网络上被大肆公开.

发表在数个非官方中外国防网站上的图片显示一架J-20原型机在中国西部进行滑行测试,据航天航空及中共军队的砖家透露,这通常是首飞前的最后步骤.

爬墙党赶紧加油,带好大炮筒.

照片的真正来源还不清楚,这些图片是那些奋战在成飞611所,既J-20研发地,附近的狂热的TG军迷中的爬墙党/卧草党所拍摄的。一些砖家认为:这只不过是简单的模仿而已,离真正的隐身战斗机的原型机还差的远着呢,理由吗,它的外型设计表明该飞机很容易就被雷达和红外线探测器发现滴。

但更多的砖家表示图片和飞机是可信的,这是个很强的信号,它表明北京在研发用于对抗地球上唯一投入实用的美国F-22上,取得了比预计还猛的进步。

兔子威武

目前还没有得到中共国防部和空军对此类照片的评论。即使没有官方的确认,但是此照片强有力的支持了美国政客及军方的判断:中共正在进行包括即将部署的航母和航母杀手—反舰弹道导弹在内的军事现代化。

这种武器系统能够有效地提升中共阻止美国对台海冲突干涉,及挑战美国海军在亚太地区霸权的能力。

空军副司令何为荣将军在2009年透露:中国正在进行第一款黑丝的研发, “8到10年” 大概就可以列装。但是直到最近的照片出来前,没有任何实际证据证明它们的存在。

兔子不放烟雾弹啦

中共监视互联网上的当局并没有试图屏蔽J-20的照片

所以有照片的就赶紧发吧,再过两天就彻底大路货了,甩卖都没人要啦

“这些照片据我看来拍摄的是相当有天赋”简氏防御周刊航空版编辑—盖利斯如是说。“它清晰表明是爬墙党/卧草党在很远处拍摄的。其中一张黑丝前轮离地面的照片显示这是一个高滑—这是个试飞前的动作,据我们所知,未来数周就可能进行首飞。”

美国官员对TG的黑丝作了低调处理. 美国情报机构认为,黑丝可能会在2018年左右投入使用。美国五角大楼发言人拉潘上校说:我们知悉中国最近一直在进行滑行测试,有照片为证。我们也知道TG虽然正在研发第五代战机,但进展似乎并不顺利。

CIA威武,一切尽在掌握之中

拉潘上校接着指出: TG依旧在寻求从俄罗斯进口第四代战机所需的引擎,这表明他们在研发第五代战机J-20的工作中还是遇到了麻烦。

但2018年的推断则暗示出美国官员认为TG第五代战斗机的研发正在加速。国防部长盖茨在2009年曾经断言TG在2020年前还无能力部署第五代战机。美国官员又誓誓旦旦,最新曝光的TG黑丝决不会对美国飞机研发产生任何影响。

TG经过数十年不断从俄罗斯进口武器并山寨之后,已经在研发先进武器方面取得了惊人的进展,甚至在无人机上也是如此。而这些照片恰恰发布在经历了2010年一系列纷争后, 华盛顿和北京正试图改善两国关系的敏感时期。

嘿嘿,TG在下一盘很大的棋

美国防部长盖茨周日将对北京进行拖延已久的访问,差不多一年前,中国为表示对美国向台湾售武的抗议,暂停了与美国的军事交往。胡*锦*涛主席也将于1月19日对美国开始国事访问。周二奥巴马在有全顾问汤姆-多尼伦,外交部长杨洁篪参加的白宫预备会议上讲道: 他始终不渝地致力于建设”和谐“的双边关系。

不愧是观海同志

去年两国发生诸多不*愉快的事情,如RMB升值问题,中国南边的领海问题,及和平炸*药奖的得猪的释*放问题。美国也对中国拒绝谴责朝鲜2次挑衅韩国而倍感沮丧。而中国亦愤怒美国对朝鲜第2次挑衅韩国的回应:11月炮轰韩国延坪岛,竟然派遣航空母舰跑的黄海参加美韩联合军演。

一碗不响,两碗叮当吗

就在美国及其亚洲盟友对TG海军的演习和TG在领土问题上采取更加强硬的立场感到忧心忡忡的同时,TG的军事战略家们则指责美国试图“遏制”中国,尤其是12月份又加派了两艘航母前往亚太地区。

公说公有理,婆说婆有道

周二《环球时报》的报道援引中国国防大学教授韩旭东大校的话讲:美国既想维持世界霸权又想保全其地区利益,因而对TG的军事崛起倍感不舒服。

小白兔也龇牙咧嘴啦

有些专家说他们认为这些照片是真实的,其中包括加拿大《汉和亚洲防务月刊》的平大湿和华盛顿国际战略和评估中心的中国军事专家费希尔。

平大湿难道和张局座是同一战壕里的战友

一些砖家说,该原型机的机身似乎是借鉴了F-22和其他美国隐形飞机,但他们仅从照片上无法判断出黑丝在航电子设备、复合材料或其他隐形技术的关键方面有多先进。

这不是废话吗

他们认为TG可能要比俄罗斯落后几年,毕竟俄罗斯首架隐形飞机T-50在2010年1月已经首飞过了,但北京方面的追赶速度确实出人意料。

连算术都不会还砖家呢,TG今年飞的话,最多落后一年

2009年美国削减了F-22的资金,转而支持机身更小、造价更低的F-35,该机首飞于2006年,预计将会在2014年投入使用。F-22主要被用于在美国本土的演习及军事行动,但是部分飞机已被派往关岛和冲绳用于维持美国在亚太地区的“安全保护伞”。

泥哄已经有F-22啦,没听说过啊

费希尔说,这架TG黑丝原型机有望成为F-22竞争对手,其性能肯定超越了F-35。J-20和F-22一样有两个发动机,大小也差不多,而F-35机身较小并且只有一个发动机。

TG野心毕现

TG黑丝计划同样也对日本和印度有影响,前者正在考虑购买F-35,而印度则在上个月刚刚与俄罗斯敲定了共同研制隐形战斗机的交易。

看样子冤大头不只一家

Adam Entous写于华盛顿

通宝推:唵啊吽,
家园 原文如下

A Chinese Stealth Challenge?

By JEREMY PAGE

Images that appear to show Beijing's prototype stealth fighter jet during a 'taxi test' at a facility in western China.

BEIJING—The first clear pictures of what appears to be a Chinese stealth fighter prototype have been published online, highlighting China's military buildup just days before U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates heads to Beijing to try to repair defense ties.

The photographs, published on several unofficial Chinese and foreign defense-related websites, appear to show a J-20 prototype making a high-speed taxi test—usually one of the last steps before an aircraft makes its first flight—according to experts on aviation and China's military.

The exact origin of the photographs is unclear, although they appear to have been taken by Chinese enthusiasts from the grounds of or around the Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute in western China, where the J-20 is in development. A few experts have suggested that the pictured aircraft is a mock-up, rather than a functioning prototype of a stealth fighter—so-called because it is designed to evade detection by radar and infrared sensors.

But many more experts say they believe the pictures and the aircraft are authentic, giving the strongest indication yet that Beijing is making faster-than-expected progress in developing a rival to the U.S. F-22—the world's only fully operational stealth fighter.

China's defense ministry and air force couldn't be reached to comment on the latest photos. Even without official confirmation, however, the photographs are likely to bolster concerns among U.S. officials and politicians about China's military modernization, which also includes the imminent deployment of its first aircraft carrier and "carrier-killer" antiship ballistic missiles.

Such weapons systems would significantly enhance China's ability to hinder U.S. intervention in a conflict over Taiwan, and challenge U.S. naval supremacy in the Asia-Pacific region.

Gen. He Weirong, deputy head of China's Air Force, announced in 2009 that China's first stealth fighters were about to undergo test flights and would be deployed in "eight or 10 years." But there was no clear physical evidence of their existence until the latest photographs emerged.

Chinese authorities who monitor Internet traffic in the country appear not to have tried to block the J-20 pictures.

"The photos I've seen look genuine," said Gareth Jennings, aviation desk editor at Jane's Defence Weekly.

"It's pretty far down the line," he said. "The fact that its nose wheel is off the ground in one picture suggest this was a high-speed taxi test—that usually means a test flight very soon afterwards. All the talk we've heard is that this could happen some time in the next few weeks."

U.S. officials played down Chinese advances on the plane, which American intelligence agencies believe will likely be operational around 2018. "We are aware that the Chinese have recently been conducting taxi tests and there are photos of it," said Pentagon spokesman Col. David Lapan. "We know they are working on a fifth-generation fighter but progress appears to be uneven."

Col. Lapan said it appears the Chinese are still seeking engines for a fourth-generation fighter from Russia, an indication that they are "still encountering problems" with development work toward the fifth-generation aircraft, the J-20.

But the 2018 estimate suggests U.S. officials believe China's development of the fifth-generation fighter has accelerated. In 2009, Mr. Gates predicted that China wouldn't deploy a fifth-generation fighter until 2020. U.S. officials said the latest disclosures wouldn't affect any U.S. aircraft-development programs.

China has made rapid progress in developing a capability to produce advanced weapons, also including unmanned aerial vehicles, after decades of importing and reverse engineering Russian arms. The photographs throw a fresh spotlight on the sensitive issue of China's military modernization just as Washington and Beijing try to improve relations following a series of public disputes in 2010.

Defense Secretary Gates is due to begin a long-delayed visit to Beijing on Sunday—almost exactly a year after China suspended military ties in protest over U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

China's President Hu Jintao is then due to begin a state visit to the U.S. on Jan. 19. President Barack Obama joined in preparatory talks at the White House on Tuesday between his national security adviser, Tom Donilon, and Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi. During the meeting, Mr. Obama said he was committed to building a bilateral relationship that is "cooperative in nature," the White House said.

The two countries clashed last year over issues including the value of the Chinese currency, China's territorial claims in the South China Sea and vocal U.S. support for a jailed Chinese dissident who won the Nobel Peace Prize.

The U.S. was also frustrated by China's refusal to condemn two North Korean attacks on South Korea, while Beijing was angered by a U.S. decision to respond to the second attack, the shelling of a South Korean island in November, by sending an aircraft carrier to take part in joint naval exercises with Seoul near China's coast.

The U.S. and its Asian allies have also been alarmed by China's naval maneuvers and more forceful stance on territorial issues, while China's military strategists have accused the U.S. of trying to "contain" China—most recently by sending two more aircraft carriers to the region in December.

"The U.S. wants to retain its global hegemony and also preserve its regional interests. It is not comfortable with China's military rise," Senior Col. Han Xudong, a professor at China's National Defense University, was quoted as saying in the Global Times newspaper Tuesday.

Experts who said they thought the photographs were authentic included Andrei Chang of the Canadian-based Kanwa Asian Defence Monthly, and Richard Fisher, an expert on the Chinese military at the International Strategy and Assessment Center in Washington.

Several experts said the prototype's body appeared to borrow from the F-22 and other U.S. stealth aircraft, but they couldn't tell from the photographs how advanced it was in terms of avionics, composite materials or other key aspects of stealth technology.

They said that China was probably several years behind Russia, whose first stealth fighter, the Sukhoi T-50, made its first flight in January 2010, but that Beijing was catching up faster than expected.

The U.S. cut funding for the F-22 in 2009 in favor of the F-35, a smaller, cheaper stealth fighter that made its first test flight in 2006 and is expected to be fully deployed by around 2014. The F-22 has mainly been used for exercises and operations around U.S. airspace, but some have been deployed to Guam and Okinawa to help maintain the U.S. security umbrella in the Asia-Pacific region.

The Chinese prototype looks like it has "the potential to be a competitor with the F-22 and to be decisively superior to the F-35," said Mr. Fisher. The J-20 has two engines, like the F-22, and is about the same size, while the F-35 is smaller and has only one engine.

China's stealth-fighter program has implications also for Japan, which is considering buying F-35s, and for India, which last month firmed up a deal with Russia to jointly develop and manufacture a stealth fighter.

— Adam Entous in Washington contributed to this article.

家园 不错

送花成功,可取消。有效送花赞扬。感谢:作者获得通宝一枚。

参数变化,作者,声望:1;铢钱:16。你,乐善:1;铢钱:-1。本帖花:1

家园 华尔街的资本家很讲政治啊,还是右派实在
家园 歌唱祖国 腹黑版

一年前的改编,现在听更加给力啊

反导测试(CNMD)成功之后的歌唱祖国新版

http://www.yyfc.com/play.aspx?reg_id=2557291&song_id=3987868

五星红旗迎风飘扬, CNMD多么响亮;

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 从今走向无耻流氓

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 一如既往的无耻流氓

跨过银河,越过太阳,土星共同体正在扩张

宽广无垠的宇宙,是我们征伐的战场

TG的小弟不要声张,我们高调忽悠低调富强

五星红旗迎风飘扬, CNMD多么响亮;

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 从今走向无耻流氓

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 一如既往的无耻流氓

我们纯洁,我们善良,团子熊猫是我们的榜样,

我们挨过鸟多少白眼,才等到鸟今天的嚣张

我们爱**,我们爱记账

谁敢世界第三就叫他灭亡

五星红旗迎风飘扬, CNMD多么响亮

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 从今走向无耻流氓

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 一如既往的无耻流氓

各种杀器,来者不拒

山寨滴精神要时时发扬

所有无耻滴老流氓,都是我们学习滴榜样

土星共同体天天向上,流氓的前途是万丈光芒

五星红旗迎风飘扬, CNMD多么响亮

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 从今走向无耻流氓

歌唱我们腹黑的土共, 一如既往的无耻流氓

家园 摆在关岛和冲绳的爱抚娘娘不算泥轰的吧

那是米国的飞地啊

家园 不给力啊

怎么变成了“谁敢世界第三就叫他灭亡”呢,我记得的版本是“谁敢欠钱不还就叫他灭亡”,矛头直指MD啊

家园 捉虫

周二奥巴马在有全顾问汤姆-多尼伦,外交部长杨洁篪参加的白宫预备会议上讲道: 他始终不渝地致力于建设”和谐“的双边关系。

应该是安全吧

捉虫
家园 是滴
家园 政治经济

政治在前,是基础。如果挣小钱,大概扯不上关系。如果想拿大家吗,呵呵。

华尔街上的大鳄是很拎得清的,私下认为比白宫的那帮官僚更懂什么是政治。

家园 泥哄的F-22在冲绳美军基地,不属于泥哄国

补个原文链接吧,另外把你自己的评论换一种颜色以示区分,这样不易误解。

家园 一句话后面带表情的

那就是偶自己的啦,嘿嘿

给个网络链接吧http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704405704576064442115471636.html

报纸你自己掏2刀买5号的好了,偶宁可买X-large的咖啡喝喝

搞错了这个才是最早的原文链接

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703808704576061674166905408.html

家园 呵呵,现在这歌儿已被建议成为超大的坛歌了
家园 花一下

花一下,为这句“谁敢欠钱不还就叫他灭亡”。

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